[lit-ideas] Re: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 01:17:45 -0700
No need for ESP. Notice merely that the person I'm responding to in the
message prior to mine is Irene. Notice also that the subject was posted on
Theoria. Unless you are Irene and have just responded on Lit-Ideas to a note
posted on Theoria, I am not referring to you.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:01 PM
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
<<Are you the same person I thought logical the other day?>>
And how would I, he, or she, know if you thought whomever logical the other
day? When we all develop ESP we'll let you know.
Julie Krueger
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[lit-ideas] Re: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
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I wondered why your most recent comment over on Theoria didn't make any
sense and now I see why. You referred to a comment you mistakenly posted on
Lit-Ideas and then followed it up over on Theoria. No great loss as far as
I can see because this one goes off on an illogical tangent. Are you the
same person I thought logical the other day?
Lawrence
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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:35 AM
To: lit-ideas
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
Right on cue, Lawrence dives straight into denial. Did you read the part
that Bush said on television right after 9/11 that they were going to be
going after terrorist financing? And have you read Ron Susskind's book?
Too treasonous for you? Once again, BUSH HIMSELF SAID RIGHT AFTER 9/11 that
they were going to be going after terrorist financing. Where is the
treason? Silencing the press at all costs, that's what you want. Why don't
you just say so? Read Susskind's book (which you are too cowardly to do)
and then talk to me about this war, which btw your great grandchildren will
be fighting, without the freedom of the press that you took away from them.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm
To: aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 7/4/2006 2:24:26 PM
Subject: RE: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
Right on cue, Irene, you want to infringe the 2nd amendment in a discussion
about the 1st amendment protecting treasonous behavior. Right after Larry
says hed rather a few Americans were killed by the enemy than infringe the
1st amendment, you want the 2nd amendment infringed and the guns of citizens
registered. You imply that only the gun industry is opposed to that. No,
Irene, the bulk of Americans want to retain the right of self-defense and
dont want the government or anyone else messing with that right. How about
registering every person who gives aid and comfort to the enemy? -- Make
them get a license for that -- have them fill out questionnaires and get
written approval before they can verbally support the enemy.
Lawrence
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[mailto:THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:53 AM
To: THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
The Times story is such old news. Bush himself said they were going after
terrorist financing right after 9/11. It's just another recycled "news"
story like all the others, the way they recycle movies and fashions. Flash!
Low Carb Diets [Cause Weight Loss/Cause Weight Gain]. Flash! [BBC headline
this month that gayness is biological, first printed in the Atlantic Monthly
in 1997] etc. etc. Flash! U.S. Government Tracking Terrorist Finances, as
Promised by Bush on Television 5 Years Ago! The NYT doesn't want to work
itself too hard, so it recycles Bush's own words from public addresses from
2001 and calls it news, and the conservatives get all excited about it. All
this focusing on "treason" and flag burning (for a flag not even made in
this country) and gay rights, all these t rivial issues and nonissues has to
be a way of taking attention away from insurmountable issues , like having
no borders and no money and an unwinnable war. Absolutely nobody is
stepping up to the plate to address these things. Instead they turn old
news into treason. Anybody read Ron Susskind's book, The One Percent
Doctrine? Really frightening stuff. Much better to say Susskind is
peddling treason and then focus on anti-flag burning amendments.
I guess rampant gun violence is happening because the 2nd Amendment is being
suppressed. I heard a discussion that the reason the gun industry is
against registration of guns, which ultimately ties the hands of law
enforcement, is so that guns can't be traced back to the manufacturers and
the manufacturers can't be sued. Like pharma, the gun industry is out to
make money at all costs. The U.S. is the world's #1 gun exporter. Bad guys
inside the country, bad guys outside the country, we'll arm them all, as
long as they'll pay and there are no consequences for the seller. Military
Keynesianism, that's what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote
the Constitution.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm
To: THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 7/4/2006 11:11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
Its too bad that the 2nd Amendment isnt given the same indulgence as the
1st. Then, perhaps, we could defend ourselves against traitors who were
tipping off the enemy as to our tactics.
Lawrence
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