[lit-ideas] Re: Some Gettier examples

  • From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:03:16 +0100

These examples are so feeble it is too much effort to explain why.

*Perhaps just because the incidents are of every-day, not to say banal
nature ? We are not then encouraged to feel that we are participating in a
difficult and momentous 'thought experiment.'

O.K.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> These examples are so feeble it is too much effort to explain why. There
> must be much better Gettier examples. These examples are so feeble I find
> it hard to believe they are Gettier examples at all.
>
> Donal
> Logician to the stars
>
>
>   On Friday, 13 March 2015, 9:24, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
> Example 1
>
> Smith, Jones and Williams are having a job interview. Smith has been
> assured by the interviewer that Jones will get the job. On the basis of
> this, Smith has formed a justified belief in the proposition that he will
> get the job. It turns out that the job has gone to Williams instead.
> "Unbeknownst to Smith,"  Williams too is male.
>
>
> Example 2
>
> Smith met Celia and saw that she had a new hair colour, red. The next day
> he called her on the mobile and she told him that she is in Paris. On the
> basis of this, Smith formed a justified belief that the woman who is in
> Paris has red hair. In fact, Celia lied to him and she wasn't in Paris at
> all. However, "unbeknownst to Smith" Genevieve, who lives in Paris, has red
> hair.
>
> ****************************
> Are these really examples of "justified true belief that is not
> knowledge", or perhaps there is something fishy about the way the
> propositions 'he will get the job' and 'the woman who is in Paris has red
> hair' are formulated ?
>
> O.K.
>
>
>

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