[lit-ideas] Re: Some Gettier examples
- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 14:02:21 +0100
Because Williams has to correspond to 'he' and not to 'she'. :)
Okay, the first example is really just a joke, but compare my example 2
with Gettier's example 1. As far as I can see, the structure is same.
O.K.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In ex2, it depends on what you take the scope of the det to be (the
> ‘the’ in the woman in paris)
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> In ex1 I fail to understand what Williams’ sex dos to the claim you made.
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> In general Gettier examples are statable without any use of those, e.g. as
> in x knows that p, if p- q or p, q & not p. hence x both knows p and cannot
> know that p, since he’d know p & not p. reminder K is under closure by
> connectives.
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> *Subject:* [lit-ideas] Some Gettier examples
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> Example 1
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> Smith, Jones and Williams are having a job interview. Smith has been
> assured by the interviewer that Jones will get the job. On the basis of
> this, Smith has formed a justified belief in the proposition that he will
> get the job. It turns out that the job has gone to Williams instead.
> "Unbeknownst to Smith," Williams too is male.
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> Example 2
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> Smith met Celia and saw that she had a new hair colour, red. The next day
> he called her on the mobile and she told him that she is in Paris. On the
> basis of this, Smith formed a justified belief that the woman who is in
> Paris has red hair. In fact, Celia lied to him and she wasn't in Paris at
> all. However, "unbeknownst to Smith" Genevieve, who lives in Paris, has red
> hair.
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> Are these really examples of "justified true belief that is not
> knowledge", or perhaps there is something fishy about the way the
> propositions 'he will get the job' and 'the woman who is in Paris has red
> hair' are formulated ?
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> O.K.
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