[lit-ideas] Re: [SPAM] Soap Opera Politics

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 00:24:24 -0400

Mark Foley was going after 16 year olds.  16 year olds are children.  Sex 
between 16 year olds is fine.  Sex between a 16 year old and a 30 year old or 
50 year old is, to put it mildly, dysfunctional.  That cultures 
institutionalize dysfunction doesn't make it other than sick.  I would bet most 
of the world would think that this is an absurd premise, that sex with power 
differentials is perfectly natural.  But it's why the world is the mess it is.  
(Stalin at 34 fell in love with a 12 year old.  He stayed in love with her 
until she killed herself.  I thought about reading a biography of his wife.  
There's a new Russian movie about their relationship but I have no access to 
it, at least not at the moment.  But Stalin falling in love with a 12 year old 
kind of says it all about how 'normal' that is, doesn't it?)

For Eric, the ideas about our military aren't mine.  They're Tom Ricks'.  
William Cohen (Clinton's Secretary of Defense, a Republican) is the one who 
suggested they're thinking about outsourcing desk jobs and sending those people 
into battle.  It also leaves unanswered why our guys are doing multiple 
rotations, wounded, PTSD, the works, they send them back.  Instead of two years 
in between rotations, it's been shortened to one year.  If we have plenty of 
troops, why do these things?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Judith Evans 
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 10/28/2006 9:38:36 PM 
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [SPAM] Soap Opera Politics

>In Belgium (?) they voted on legalizing sex between men and boys

In Belgium, the age of consent is 16.  

 "All indecent assaults on modesty committed without violence or threat, by a 
person or by aiding the person, of a child of either sex, aged less than 
sixteen, will be punished by imprisonment (of five years to ten years)."

In the US, the age of consent varies (by state) between 16 and 18 (I believe
the state laws that gave an age of consent of 14 for girls have now been
invalidated).  I.e., there are US states where the age of consent is the 
same as it is in Belgium.

> Unfortunately, it happens here too, but at least here people go to jail for 
> it.

and here; and in Belgium; and in France; and in Germany; and in Italy

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