If I may, I believe Jl's account is historiographically innacurate. The facts clearly indicate that Witters challenged Popper to a game of *poker* - a card game played frequently in America and some parts of Canada in which the loser ends up naked (in one form or another). Upon recognizing W's speech act, Bertie immediately intervened in an attempt to dissuade Karl from accepting the challenge, knowing full well Witter's extraordinary abilities at this game and his willingness to render other players penniless and destitute. As a result of Bertie's intervention, Karl did manage to leave with his shirt still on, although reports indicate that his left eyebrow was singed. Anything else is commentary. Walter O. Chief Librarian Department of Logic, Metaphysics and Cards St. John's College, Cambridge, Ontario Quoting Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx: > In a message dated 5/6/2009 10:44:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > rpaul@xxxxxxxx writes: > you'll grant it's enthymematic. > > No, I won't. > ---- > > I'd add that the ultimate conclusion of the enthymeme would be: > > _You_ are an immoral *git*. > > (uttered by Poppers to refer to Witters). > > For if an example of a moral rule under the heading of 'ethics' (according > to an online source, the question was posed to Popper once Witters had > left, by an admiring student of Witters -- and thus it is _not_ the > 'victory' > Popper, always ready to self-advertise, claims it to be) is > > "not to threaten visiting lecturers with pokers" > > (I still feel this is ungrammatical, or in need of context. Surely as it > stands it's the _name_ of an action, an infinitive, but unrepresentable > unless meaning "p!", proposition and deontic operator (or neustic)) > > it would seem that > > threaten visiting lecturers with pokers > > would be _immoral_, which was what Witters was doing. > As an online source said, it was the facetiousness (?) of Popper's > self-conscious 'witty' rejoinder that had Witters over the edge, rightly. > > JLS > > **************Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. > (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006) > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html