[lit-ideas] Re: Marxi's influence in America

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 16:10:38 -0800

As I said, I no longer have the Marxist and Leftist library I once had so I
am not able to readily produce the evidence.  Please consider my statements
(on that Marxist matters) assertions and not arguments.  This isn't a big
thing with me.  That is, I recall certain "facts," but if I no longer have
the books I got them from I can't prove them to you.  On the other hand, I
am not going to relinquish my belief in them without overwhelming proof.  

I don't quite recall how we got off onto this tangent.  I suspect it was
something Irene said.  Be that as it may, it isn't something I'm studying
now and I am quite content to have you think any thing you like about it.

The issue of Slavery was not at the forefront in regard to the Cessation
Movement that led to the Civil War.  In fact I probably first learned that
from a Marxist.  Economics were at the root of the States Rights concerns.
The North controlled the transportation and squeezed the South in regard to
the shipping of goods to European markets.  

Lawrence

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--- Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Irene,
> 
>  
> 
> I can see you put a cake out in the rain, but it
> isn't mine.  I was talking
> about Marxist influence in America, not Communist,
> in the previous note.  


I'm glad to see the distinction, Lawrence; but my
problem with your replies in this thread is that
almost anything that is in some way similar to
something Marx said or that conforms to his ideals can
be seen by you as inspired or influenced by Marx,
Marx/Engels, Marxism, absent 100 per cent proof to the
contrary.      That does not matter politically to me
-- after all, I am a socialist inspired by the early
Marx and to me, Marxist is not a dirty word -- but
still, it matters.

(I accept that you produced a quotation re the 8-hour
day.)

you wrote

>The Civil War was begun over States Rights and not
Slavery. 

But the States Rights at issue were bound up with
slavery. 



Judy Evans, Cardiff


                
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