[lit-ideas] Re: Is Hizbollah a Resistance Organization or not?
- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 04:54:35 -0700 (PDT)
Differentiation ? O.K.
--- JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I'd like Lawrence's differentiation between liberal
> and leftist?
>
> Julie Krueger
>
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> Resistance Organization or not? Date: 8/7/06
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> Beautifully said, Lawrence. I agree with everything
> you said, it was said
> with such an appreciation for nuance and meaning.
>
> Except for identifying Andreas with the Leftist /
> Islamist position. That's
> ridiculous.
>
> Your descriptions are meaningful and valuable;
> your evaluations using
> terminology like "Leftist / Islamist position" are
> intrusive. They blur meaning,
> alienate, and block meaningful discussion.
>
> Stan Spiegel
>
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> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Is Hizbollah a Resistance
> Organization or not?
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>
>
> Since Mike asked, I take Andreas note below to be
> consistent with the
> Leftist/Islamist position. Hizbollah attacked
> Israel but that doesnâ??t matter.
> Only the dead matter. If Israel defends itself it
> is being a warmonger state.
> This leaves Hizbollahâ??s tactics in tact. They
> shouldnâ??t have to pay for
> their adventure. This view would, if put into
> effect, prevent Israel from
> defending itself. Israel is a warmongering state if
> it defends itself.
> Note the neutral it is â??horribleâ?? that 12
> people in â??Israel died in rocket
> attacksâ?? but no blame is attached to Hizbollah.
> It might as well have been a
> meteor that struck those 12 people. Islamist
> Mullahs who sided with America
> after 9/11 thought it horrible that those people
> died in the Trade Center
> attack, but they stopped well short of assigning
> blame for the deaths.
> Andreas does do something you donâ??t normally see
> in Leftist/Islamist
> arguments. He says there are warmongers in control
> in Lebanon, Syria and Iran, but
> he does it in such a way that there is moral
> equivalence between what the
> Islamists do and what Syria, Iran and Lebanon (I
> assume he means Hizbollah)
> does. There isnâ??t enough here to see a developed
> political theory, but
> anarchists blame states and not people for the
> evils of the world.
> Lawrence
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> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Is Hizbollah a Resistance
> Organization or not?
> Lawrence wrote:
> >The Lit-Ideas Leftists aren't as articulate but
> side with Omar, Syria and
> Hizbollah. I
> >haven't seen any of them siding with Israel.
> Lawrence, do you mean whether we side with the
> Israeli people, or the
> government of Israel?
> Today, 12 people in Israel died in rocket attacks.
> That's horrible. I side
> with the people
> in both Israel and Lebanon and this ridiculous,
> meaningless war should stop
> instantly.
> I don't side with the warmongers in control of
> Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Iran,
> and the White
> House. They are idiots who only care about power and
> money. All the talk of
> patriotism and
> defense and peace is just crap that they use to make
> money and get others to
> die.
> I don't see you siding with the people of the world.
> You constantly take the
> side of
> warmongers. Where are you? Constructive peace or
> endless narcissistic war?
> yrs,
> andreas
> www.andreas.com
>
>
>
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