Dear Andy, If you go back through what I have written you will find it hard, I believe, to point to an instance in which I have labeled you personally or speculated about your character. I have called your arguments simplistic, irrelevant, even bullshit but have tried pretty consistently to adhere to the old Christian principle "Hate the sin but not the sinner." Your hypotheticals with the boss fall into the irrelevant category as far as I am concerned. Why? Because a boss abusing a another adult is not the same as a parent spanking a child between the ages of two and ten or twelve, especially if the spankings are rare, which they should be. -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd. 55-13-202 Miyagaya, Nishi-ku Yokohama 220-0006, JAPAN ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html