Slackware? You got me thinking. I do like the idea of going to a distribution that is not a corporate money making motivated group. Reminds me of you know who. I almost got everyone at my work to go for a Mac computer lab, Billy G. would not have liked that, but then that would be nice. However... Well, I was 1 day too late. Anyway, I'll look up Slackware. My current motive for upgrading is to be able to install java 1.4(beta) or java 1.3.1, it does not like my current kernel. Now that sounds like you know who a little, but then... Robert