[Linux-Anyway] Re: Now I know why I didn't see this
- From: Scott Robbins <scottro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Linux-Anyway@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:17:39 -0500
On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 03:56:11PM -0700, Meph Istopheles wrote:
>
> > When my wife's laptop was stolen, she just used her hotmail
> > account for awhile (Ironically enough, anything from hotmail
> > goes in my potential spam folder to be quickly looked at and
> > usually deleted). So, when she got back online her roadrunner
> > account had almost nothing but spam. I began deleting it and
> > she's asking me why. I can't see her wanting to buy --oh,
> > never mind. So, she tells me not to delete her mail without
> > her seeing it. Then, keeps calling me back to her computer to
> > explain that no, that's not a good deal, no, this is something
> > you don't need, etc.
>
> What? You mean to tell me that she ~doesn't~ want a bigger
> penis?;-)
Y'know, I was going to make a joke about that, but decided it was too
vulgar. :)
>
>
> > It's the busiest of all the lists I'm on today--I don't feel
> > like looking at my shell scripts, playing with that printer, or
> > anything else contructive. :)
>
> And to think, we only have seven people subscribed....
7 bored people? :)
>
>
> > Seriously, despite the ideal of anarchy. it's probably going to
> > be a good place to educate people. THat is to say, to tell
> > someone this is fine here, we have no rules--just keep in mind
> > that on other lists--and I'm actually thinking of the Uebergeek
> > ones like freebsd-questions or tlug---if you do these things,
> > you'll probably be flamed or at least singed. :)
>
> Or, maybe, I'll start a new treand of helping instead of
> bitching...? OK. So, I'm a dreamer.
Oh puhleeze--I was answering their questions, just lecturing them as I
did it. :)
>
> > :) Who knows what this list might accomplish--I've put up
> > links to it in my omnipresent linux faq, and it may also be
> > linked to from an elite list, in the section of, if you don't
> > like our rules, go play here. :)
>
> Ah, I was about to ask what exactly you were on about -- then I
> see you tie it all up with the last bit:-).
I like to surprise ya. :0
>
>
> > > > Considering the moderator is socialist-with-heavy-
> > > > anarchistic-leanings, you're right. Blast us with your
> > > > commie ideals;-).
>
> > Yeah, who is always whining about his lack of money. (I would
> > be much nicer to Meph if he lived on the East Coast--I figure
> > I'm safe for awhile.)
>
> Just you wait. Virtual Reality will come to the masses, & you
> will ~pay~ for that remark;-).
And several others, too, I assume--did you catch what I called you
recently on one of the lists? I figured you missed it that's why you
let me get away with it--or maybe because I buried it in a plug for this
list. :)
>
> > ...there's a massive influx of newbies--some who are eager
> > to learn and enthusiastic, others who just want to use Linux because
> > they don't want to use MS and Macs are too expensive.
>
> But does it really matter ~why~ one comes to Linux? The fact
> is that many ~are~ coming. How & who does it serve to alienate
> them?
Tough love? :)
Y'know, one attitude of some of the gurus is "I learned the hard way,
let them learn or let them get off the boat." My mood swings back and
forth. I'm not religiously anti-MS, still use it for some things, and
one has to admit that in certain things, they have it over
Linux--there's a Daniel Robbins interview somewhere (he's the founder of
my new True Love, Gentoo) where he comments on this--saying, GUIs do
have to match MS or Mac in speed. (Although I'm finding that with
fluxbox and other light weight ones, that it's coming closer.)
>
> > Linux has its distros which are aiming towards the newcomer.
> > They do their best to insulate the newcomer from the command
> > line, which shocks some of the old timers.
>
> Ah, but we all know that even the newbie won't be spared. The
> command line suddenly becomes the only way to get something
> working (though I remember that occasionally happening in Windows
> as well).
Yes, but not often, unless you're an Admin, in which case, you should
know it anyway.
>
> And then there will be us on Linux-Anyway to ease them from
> their gui to the command line & will have the problem fixed in a
> tenth the time. Plus, that newbie will be a Linux user, instead
> of one who simply tried it & couldn't get anything working.
Yup, that's a high ideal--still somewhat surprising that someone as
grouchy and impatient with stupidity as yourself is founding it. :)
>
> Meph
>
> --
> Abandon the search for Truth; settle for a good fantasy.
I'll agree with that.
>
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Scott
Cordelia: We were just discussing whether or not we should
offer to pay Gunn.
Angel: No you weren't.
Wesley: Well, our discussions tend to go about 3 minutes, then it's
strictly name calling and hair pulling.
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