[liblouis-liblouisxml] SV: Re: UEB G2 translation of "reverse".

  • From: Bue Vester-Andersen <bue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:45:35 +0100

Hi,

You could make a hyphenation file using that table and use that streight away
with liblouis. I have done that with Danish grade 2, and it gives tremendously
accurate results. Much better than making an actual liblouis table with the
words and syllables and exceptions and exceptions to the exceptions.

If I can help in the process, please tell me.

Bue


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Emne: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB G2 translation of "reverse".

Syllables are very important in UEB. I have a table of over 160,000 English
words broken by syllable if we need it.


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On Jan 11, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,
Uh oh, we need to add the following:
Syllable verse 1236-12456-234-15
In en-ueb-g2.
Cheers,
Joseph

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[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rasmussen,
Lloyd
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:24 AM
To: 'liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB G2 translation of "reverse".

I checked with a local UEB expert, and she agrees that this is a bug.

Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Staff Engineer
National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Library of
Congress
Washington, DC 20542 202-707-0535
http://www.loc.gov/nls/
The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the
Library of Congress, NLS.

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[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jake Kyle
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:17 AM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB G2 translation of "reverse".

I’m not an expert either but this could be relevant:
Rules of Unified English Braille (ICEB 2013)
Section 10.7.4 says:
Use the initial-letter contraction for "ever" when the stress is on the first
"e" and when the letters are not preceded by "e" or "i".
An example they give when it shouldn’t be used is:
eversion ⠑⠧⠻⠨⠝
"reverse" similarly has the emphasis on the second "e" so it would seem as if
"ever" contraction should not be used in this case.

Jake Kyle
www.compassbraille.org


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From: Rasmussen, Lloyd
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 2:46 PM
To: 'liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: UEB G2 translation of "reverse".

I don't know the exact rules, but many contractions are allowed in UEB which
were not allowed in EBAE. For example, "sphere" can be written "s p dot-5 h".

Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Staff Engineer
National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Library of
Congress
Washington, DC 20542 202-707-0535
http://www.loc.gov/nls/
The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the
Library of Congress, NLS.


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[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Mielke
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 9:43 PM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] UEB G2 translation of "reverse".

Using en-ueb-g2, the word "reverse" is being translated using "ever" rather
than just 'er". I'm not a UEB expert, but I'm suspecting that this is
incorrect.

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