[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Question aout liblouisxml structure

  • From: "Michel such" <michel.such@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:05:59 +0100

John,

For the Gui, here are several possibilities.
The one I am most familiar with is a language called autohotkey which allows to 
easily build dialogs.
I used it to build a dialog to configure BRLTTY under Windows.
So it will probably be the first thing I'll look at.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John J. Boyer 
  To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:08 PM
  Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Question aout liblouisxml structure


  Michel,

  Thanks. Your plans for the future sound good also. What language will 
  you use for the GUI? 

  John

  On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 07:27:54PM +0100, Michel such wrote:
  > John,
  > 
  > At this point, I can propose a simple zip file with all the binaries.
  > You only have to unzip it and can run the programs from its bin 
subdirectory.
  > This can be done at once.
  > In the future, I would like to add some bells and whistles like an 
installer and some gui environment.
  > 
  > But for now, you can download the zip file at:
  > http://www.nvda.fr/dl/liblouisxml-1.8.0-win32.zip
  > 
  > Unzipping it will create a louis directory that you can place anywhere.
  > The archive also contains antiword for convenience.
  > 
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: John J. Boyer 
  >   To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  >   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:31 PM
  >   Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Question aout liblouisxml structure
  > 
  > 
  >   Michel,
  > 
  >   This is something I've been wanting for a long time. I assume that the 
  >   binary is a zip file. It should need only a few simple installation 
  >   instructions. Can you put the zip file and the instructions on a website 
  >   and post a link to the list?
  > 
  >   I know you had a hard time reaching this goal, and I'm rather concerned 
  >   that your setup with mingw, etc. might be hard to duplicate.
  > 
  >   Thanks,
  >   John
  > 
  >   On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 06:04:26PM +0100, Michel such wrote:
  >   > John,
  >   > 
  >   > Just tested it on my wife's machine which is free of any development 
environment (no mingw or cygwin)
  >   > and it works fine.
  >   > 
  >   > I'll let you know how to build it (at least under mingw).
  >   > 
  >   > It is straight forward for liblouis and libxml2.
  >   > For liblouisxml, you need to install pkg-config which I spent spme time 
to setup correctly.
  >   > 
  >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   From: John J. Boyer 
  >   >   To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  >   >   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:30 PM
  >   >   Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Question aout liblouisxml 
structure
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   Michel,
  >   > 
  >   >   This is great. I think your paths.c can be combined with the original 
  >   >   one to handle all situations. Can you make the binary and then test 
it 
  >   >   on machines that don't have either Mingw or Cygwin? If it works under 
  >   >   those circumstances we can figure out the best way to distribute it. 
  >   >   Please also give me a description of how you made it.
  >   > 
  >   >   Thanks,
  >   >   John
  >   > 
  >   >   On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 05:09:55PM +0100, Michel such wrote:
  >   >   > Hi John,
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > Oops, I understand the problem.
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > So this new one seems to work fine, at least it finds all needed 
files on my machine (liblouis tables and lbx files).
  >   >   > So, here it is attached.
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   >   From: John J. Boyer 
  >   >   >   To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  >   >   >   Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:46 PM
  >   >   >   Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Question aout liblouisxml 
structure
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   michel,
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   This is a good start. It will work for now in getting the Windows 
  >   >   >   version mp and running, but as you probably realize it can't 
replace the 
  >   >   >   paths.c in the distribution. I do see a problem at line 152. You 
have to 
  >   >   >   add paths for both \usr\share|liblouisxml\lbx_files and 
  >   >   >   \usr\share\liblouis\tables . I'm really happy that we are so 
close.
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   John
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 06:33:28PM +0100, Michel such wrote:
  >   >   >   > Hi John,
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   > Here is a modified paths.c
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   > The _win32 code has been changed so that it returns the current 
path of the module instead of "c:\Program Files".
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   > So, if you run for example xlm2brl.exe from directory 
d:\louis\bin,
  >   >   >   > it will return
  >   >   >   > d:\louis\bin\
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   > then you can concatenate the appropriate subdir.
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   > the conde has been borrowed from BRLTTY (essentially from file 
sys_prog_windows.h)
  >   >   >   > and adapted by me to fit my needs.
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   > As I am not a great c expert, it probably might be improved.
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   > So here it is attached.
  >   >   >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   >   >   From: John J. Boyer 
  >   >   >   >   To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  >   >   >   >   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:00 PM
  >   >   >   >   Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Question aout liblouisxml 
structure
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   Michel,
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   When liblouis and liblouisxml are built under Linux you can 
specify the 
  >   >   >   >   directory in which they will be placed with the --prefix 
option in 
  >   >   >   >   configure. I think 
  >   >   >   >   that it would be good if we didn't try to put them in 
"program Files". 
  >   >   >   >   Neither Cygwin nor Mingw installs under that directory. 
Suppose, 
  >   >   >   >   however, we install them in c:\louss using configure 
--prefix=c:\louis . 
  >   >   >   >   Then xml2brl.exe, lou_allround.exe, etc. will be in 
c:\louis\bin . The 
  >   >   >   >   DLLs will be in c|\louis\lib and the liblouis tables will be 
in 
  >   >   >   >   c:\louis\usr\share\liblouis\tables . The liblouisxml 
semantic-action 
  >   >   >   >   files and configuration files will be in 
  >   >   >   >   c:\louis\usr\share\liblouisxml\lbx_files. The programs will 
thus be able 
  >   >   >   >   to find what they need and we can make the Windows binary by 
zipping the 
  >   >   >   >   c:\louis directory recursively. 
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   At least that is how I hope it would work. I'll have to try 
to duplicate
  >   >   >   >   your setup with Mingw and Msys. I have the zip file you put 
up a couple
  >   >   >   >   of weeks ago, but I think you have added some other packages. 
Could you
  >   >   >   >   provide a new file with these other packages? I'll have tr 
discover how
  >   >   >   >   the compiler can know that it is in Mingw as well as Windows. 
Then I can
  >   >   >   >   modify paths.c accordingly.
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   You are making a real contribution. I think we are close to 
having those
  >   >   >   >   Windows binaries.
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   Thanks,
  >   >   >   >   John
  >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 07:15:36PM +0100, Michel such wrote:
  >   >   >   >   > John,
  >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   > It appears that, when compiling with mingw, it is 
recognized as being in _win32 environment.
  >   >   >   >   > So it compiles the lines corresponding to this in paths.c.
  >   >   >   >   > It assumes that the directory containing the conversion 
tables and the .cfg files should be somewhere under "c:\Program Files".
  >   >   >   >   > It would be better, in my opinion, if it would be "Program 
" independant.
  >   >   >   >   > The better would be to retrieve the directory where the 
program runs from.
  >   >   >   >   > for example if I run the program from:
  >   >   >   >   > c:\liblouisxml\bin\xml2brl.exe
  >   >   >   >   > it should return
  >   >   >   >   > c:\liblouisxml\bin as currentPath.
  >   >   >   >   > Then, in yourSubDir, we could put something like
  >   >   >   >   > ".\\etc\\tables"
  >   >   >   >   > So, if you install liblouisxml in
  >   >   >   >   > c:\Program Files\liblouisxml
  >   >   >   >   > the path you would retrieve in the end would be:
  >   >   >   >   > c:\Program Files\liblouisxml\bin..\etc\tables
  >   >   >   >   > wich is like
  >   >   >   >   > c:\Program Files\liblouisxml\etc\tables
  >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   >   >   >   From: John J. Boyer 
  >   >   >   >   >   To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  >   >   >   >   >   Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:27 PM
  >   >   >   >   >   Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Question aout 
liblouisxml structure
  >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   >   Michel,
  >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   >   i assume you are using Mingw and Msys. The mysubdir line 
was intended 
  >   >   >   >   >   for building liblouisxml with a Microsoft compiler such 
as VC6. On line 
  >   >   >   >   >   38 of paths.c there is  the statement:
  >   >   >   >   >   #ifdef _WIN32 
  >   >   >   >   >   Which checks whether you are compiling under Windows. It 
should also be 
  >   >   >   >   >   possible to check whether you are using Mingw. I'm not 
sure just what 
  >   >   >   >   >   this variable is called. But if you are compiling under 
Mingw you want 
  >   >   >   >   >   to skip all the code up to line 118, where there is a 
comment about Unix 
  >   >   >   >   >   paths. This can be done by modifying the #ifdef statement 
at line 38. 
  >   >   >   >   >   Let's hope someone more familiar with Mingw knows how to 
do this.
  >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   >   Once this is done, we will have to decide on a suitable 
value for the 
  >   >   >   >   >   --prefix option in configure for both liblouis and 
liblouisxml. 
  >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   >   John
  >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   >   On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 02:55:54PM +0100, Michel such 
wrote:
  >   >   >   >   >   > Hi all,
  >   >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   >   > After 2 weeks of hard fight, I finally succeeded 
building liblouisxml under Windows.
  >   >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   >   > Now a question:
  >   >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   >   > I have changed the file paths.c (line 114).
  >   >   >   >   >   > I replaced yoursubdir by a directory name of mine (I 
called it "tables").
  >   >   >   >   >   > As I understand, this directory should contain 
conversion tables and maybe cfg files.
  >   >   >   >   >   > 
  >   >   >   >   >   > Where should this directory be located in the 
liblouisxml directory structure?
  >   >   >   >   >   > I currently have a standard structire (bin, etc, 
include...)
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