________________________________ From: Steve Lang <stevelang@xxxxxxxxx> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:58:39 AM Subject: [LRflex] Re: (LRflex) Shopping Frustration Hi Richard, ~Hi Again Steve! I was in the same boat as you- I was looking for an inexpensive 'user' R lens for my Canon DSLR. For such use the version of the lens doesn't matter, so 1 or 2 cam is fine. What I ended up doing was looking at EBay auctions for Leicaflex cameras with lenses- typically 50mm Summicron. My logic was that other people looking for lenses might not watch camera auctions. After seeing some 50mm Summicron auctions go for around $300, I ended up with a Leicaflex SL + 50mm Summicron for less than that. After years of thinking there was no way to get into Leica for under a grand or so, I find a nice side entrance. ;-) ~A great method and one I used to get my Zeiss Pancolar! Individually, they were selling for a lot a few years ago when I bought mine, so I picked up a dog eared Practica with it on the front for substantially less. Unfortunately, I have yet to get a Leica with Lens successfully purchased yet. ~As for the 1,2,3 Cam Conundrum I puzzled over, I quite recently figured out the cam counts are quite independent of the quality of the Optical Design of the Lens in question. BTW- I love that baseball shot. I am wondering which direction the ball is going. ;-) I am guessing that the bat is just about to meet the ball. ~I am fairly sure it's an 'Outbound' baseball, due to the extreme way the batter's clothes are moving and the tension in his muscles, but I don't know for sure. I was relying on Prefocussing, High Shutter Speed, the 20D's quick shooting speed, profligrate shooting, and oodle's of good luck to get shots like that. I'm not a natural sports shooter because I don't fundamentally understand the games, the rhythyms, and I have a poor sense of timing. I previsualized what 'kind of shot' I wanted (Peak of Action that also tells a story) and then reached into my Photographic Skills Toolbox and figured out how my available knowledge and equipment could get a shot like that. Cheers Steve