[LRflex] Re: (LRflex) Shopping Frustration
- From: Richard Ward <ilovaussiesheps@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:09:45 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Aram,
I hear you on the 'What's a Cam?' comment! I sorted out the lack of
mechanical supportive technology when I migrated my M42 Lens to my 20D. The
extra steps and rig-a-ma-role never bothered me much, it's still a lot simpler
than a View Camera's esoteric processes! After figuring out how to be fluent
with one of those, I ain't gonna let some digital analogue mixed marriage stop
me!
To All Listers: Is there appreciable optical differences between, for
instance, a 1 cam Summicron 50 f2 and a late model rom/3cammer of the same
lens? On FredMiranda and A Canon forum I received opinions steering me to late
model lenses of even basic primes, is that a bit of LeicaSnobbery or spilting
hairs on how big a bill board one can print from particular generations of lens?
Richard
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From: Aram Langhans <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: leica reflex freelists <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:28:57 PM
Subject: [LRflex] Re: (LRflex) Shopping Frustration
Hi Richard. If you are just going to slap that lens on a Canon, then I don't
think it would make any differences if it were 1 cam, 2 cam, 3 cam, ROM or no
cam. Canon says "What's a cam, anyway?"
Aram
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:44:58 -0700
To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [LRflex] Re: (LRflex) Shopping Frustration
Richard wrote:
Hello List,
> my name's Richard and I'm still new here, but it seems like a nice group of
> users here. I have received some nice comments about the Image I posted a
> link to on the list to an image I shot with my Zeiss Pancolar on my 20D.
> (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3522/3267824103_9f55579064_b.jpg) Since I'm
> not yet a member of the "R" ownership club as of yet, I kind of felt a need
> to establish having some Chops as a Photographer if I'm going to be posting
> around these parts.
> As for "Shopping Frustration": I simply want to ask about any tips or info
> a list member might be able to pass along because, so far, the only thing
> I've been able to get with months of searching eBay, the 'Net, and Locally,
> for 'R' equipment is a terrible case of Shoppers Frustration. Everything I
> encounter seems to be outlandishly expensive limited editions, collectors
> items, and f0.0 Niche Lenses on the top end and the bottom end are all pricey
> near mint condition stuff commanding premium prices. Where the heck can I
> find the stuff someone's actually USED, that has wear on the outside,
> cleaning marks and (Heaven Forbid!) even a scratch in the coating. The "3
> Cam" & ROM Lenses (?did I say that right?) might be the latest greatest, I
> surmise, but there must be something usable about those 1 cam or 2 cam
> lenses, too, isn't there? I'm willing to try em! Sigh.
Hi Richard!
One cam lenses are only useable on the original Leicaflex ... that is why they
appear on the market at quite low prices. Two cam lenses can be used on the
Leicaflex and the Leicaflex SL and SL2 cameras. But, to use the newer R3, R4,
R4s, R5, RE, R6, R6.2, R7, R8 or R9, you will need either 3 cam or "3rd cam
only" lenses. BTW: "3rd cam only" and the newest ROM lenses are not common
and can only be used on the "R" series, whereas 3 cam lenses can be used on any
Leica Reflex, from the original "flex", onwards. Because of their greater
versatility, they command higher prices for any given level on condition.
For more on this, see:
http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/index-frameset.html?Lens-R.html~mainFrame
Doug Herr has offered some Leicaflex SL's in working but not pristine
condition, lately, on our Friday for Sale days, at some very reasonable prices.
Recently, Aram sold an R4 though this list, at, IIRC, $200, in pretty decent
shape. I even considered buying it!
You might wish to place a Wanted To Buy note, on Friday, as well, for others
may have older, unused gear that you might convince them to part with.
However, be warned that Leica gear commands a higher price in the market place,
even for beaters, than most brands. The trick is to be patient. The right
gear, at the right price (or close to it) will come along, eventually.
Meanwhile, nobody is going to throw you off this list because you don't have
the gear. This is a list "for those who own, or wished they owned" Leica
Reflex gear. It is the love of the stuff, not the ownership of it, which binds
us all together.
Cheers!
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David Young
Logan Lake, BC
Wildlife Photos: www.furnfeather.net
Rodeo Photos: www.galleries.furnfeather.netPersonal Website:
www.main.furnfeather.net
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