Charlie, Naw, that's what silent-wave autofocus motors are for. You don't even have to touch the lens except to zoom. I've reached the age where even Nikon & Leica (aka Panasonic Lumix), Pro-sumer point & shoots are getting pretty great, there you only have buttons to push! Ain't technology grand? That is when it works right! My Digilux 1 & possibly a Digilux 2 & my Nikon Coolpix 8700 are really getting a workout. The results are nothing to sneeze at either AND I can buy a lot of these cameras for what a good R8~R9 & a Digital Back for either one will cost. Of course I can't use my Leica SLR Lenses there but.......... Art Tafil ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/