[klaatumail] Re: King Crimson (no kk)
- From: "Jens C. Lindblad" <jens.lindblad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:18:40 +0200
That does make a strong case for bringing back vinyl. :-) And while
I'm at it, best medium for the written word is paper.
Not even joking. :-(
Jens
Bradley, David skrev:
>> His one exception was "Something Happened" on the 'Sun Set'.
>> Because the tune was a demo and was never properly mixed
>> when it was recorded, the guys consented to a remix because
>> Dee had saved the original mult-track tape. Dave Bradley
>> and I were part of a salvage operation in 1998 to convert
>> that tape onto multi-track ADAT format for future use.
>> But when I pulled the ADAT out for remixing in early 2005
>> it wouldn't play. And because we were on a deadline for the
>> 'Sun Set' release to coincide with the convention, we stopped
>> right there and went with the original demo mix on the disc.
>>
>
> Wish I had known that. At the time of the transfer, I did the
> individual tracks to DAT tapes, without mixing. :-(
>
> However, that brings up a topic that may interest some people and may
> bore others to tears.
>
> Digital tape is NOT an archival medium. Optical disc is NOT an archival
> medium.
>
> With analog, if there's a problem with the tape, you get a dropout,
> glitch, noise, whatever, and the recording continues to play. With
> digital, if there's a problem with the tape, the decoding of the digital
> signal often times stops completely at that point. Rarely will you hear
> a digital glitch. You're more likely to hear the recording go completely
> silent and IF the machine will continue playing the tape, you'll get it
> coming back after the bad section of tape. This is also a problem with
> analog video because of the necessity of the sync pulse track being
> intact. Don't get me started on the failings of digital video tape!
>
> Many an analog tape got transferred to DAT tape, ADAT tape, DTRS (DA-88)
> tape, Sony DASH, Mitsubishi Pro-Digi (X-80 and X-86 and their various
> incarnations), etc, and then the original was destroyed or discarded.
> Those digital mediums are failing at a huge rate and the recordings on
> them can't be recovered. If the original analog still exists, it can be
> re-transferred, often with better results than the original transfer
> because of updated analog to digital converters.
>
> The biggest problem with ADATs is that the machines didn't hold
> alignment very well, and as a result, the tapes may have been recorded
> out of alignment (even on a brand new machine) and can't be recovered
> without machine the alignment of a deck to the recording on the tape,
> which is very tedious, very tenuous, and very expensive.
>
> The biggest problem with the X-80 and X-86 varieties is compatability.
> Here is an attempt to summarize the various versions and their
> (in)compatibility from my friend Richard Hess:
> ---
> The original X-80 machine had a 50 kHz sample rate. It's tapes will play
> back properly on a 50 ks/s X-80, or 4% slow on a 48 ks/s X-80 or an
> X-86C.
>
> Later X-80 machines had a 48 kHz sample rate. It's tapes will play back
> properly on a 48 ks/s X-80 or an X-86C. Presumably they will also play
> 4% fast on an original, 50 kHz X-80.
>
> The switchable 44.1/48 ks/s X-86 tapes will play on an X-86, X-86C, and
> X-86HS.
>
> The high-resolution (88.2/96 ks/s) X-86HS tapes will only play on that
> machine.
>
> The "radio-station" 7.5 in/s tapes made on the X-86LT will only play on
> that machine.
> ---
> Also note that two additional digital formats are wide spread. PCM-F1
> (recorded on analog beta video, analog VHS video, and analog U-Matic
> video) are very difficult to get to play, and the standard for a couple
> decades of CD manufacturing is the Sony 1610/1630 format which is also
> very difficult to get to play these days.
>
> One additional thing about the PCM-F1, they were often 14-bit
> recordings, not 16-bit, and even the 16-bit were sampled at 44,096, not
> 44,100, so there is a possibility of not being able to get the digital
> signal to lock with a modern capture card.
>
> Fun stuff! Our memories are disappearing right in front of our eyes and
> there's little we can do to stop them from doing so!
>
> I've had CD-Rs that I recorded 10 years ago start to fail, but even more
> scary is that CDs that I bought 15 years ago are starting to not play
> (and they aren't all PDO discs either!).
>
> Optical is NOT an archival medium either.
>
> Hard Drives are cheap, high capacity, and often your best option, but
> even then, formats change. IDE is quickly giving way to SATA. MFM and
> RLL drives are not supported by any currently manufactured devices. As
> formats start to change, transfer your data to the new format as soon as
> possible.
>
> ALWAYS keep the originals too!
>
> Dave
>
>
>
Other related posts:
