Well, guys, speak of the devil. It just happened to me again. I haven't trotted out juno5dbd yet on my mailbox, but I'm back in business for now minus the 3000+ messages that were in my folders. I learned a few things. I think the primary cause of these collapses may be getting a blue screen or other system crash while Juno is in the midst of updating its database. I'm still using W98se, so I get plenty of crashes. Most of the time they don't result in a Juno crash, just sometimes, like a few days ago. It also crashed on me once when I accidentally clicked on Cancel during a mail download that said 100% complete although it wasn't really complete yet. I think that thing goes to 100% before it actually verifies that the mail has been downloaded successfully by comparing what's on your local disk with what's on the Juno servers. If they match, the servers know to delete the messages at their end. I don't know why canceling out of that should trash your mailbox, but it did. Obviously a software bug of some sort. I think Juno periodically reorganizes its database or something because I saw a lot of activity going on when I was offline and not even doing anything. It went on for a couple minutes. Unfortunately, it was during that process that I managed to crash my O/S starting to do something else. To recover, I first decided to see what Juno's website has to say. Did you know that they have free technical assistance via email? It's right there on the home page. You might have to have megamail (I do); I don't know. Turnaround can take hours, but I explained my problem to real people, and they responded, a different person each time. They run the help line 24 hours/day. Oh, I got some canned procedures to follow, but it was clear they had read my messages and picked the right things to send me. They took me through the process of uninstalling and reinstalling Juno with a build later than the one I had that was supposed to fix my problem. No dice. They had me run Juno Backup and Restore. Still no dice, but I wasn't even aware of its existence until then! It's right there in the Juno start menu. One thing I discovered was that there were a ton of Juno.ini files on my disk in different directories. Besides my own backups, it appears Juno has changed where that thing goes from time to time, and the upgrades don't delete the old ones. I was surprised to discover that Juno is now hiding my USER0000 directory outside of the Juno program directory itself. It's now over at c: \windows\ Local Settings\ Application Data\ JN\ JN Data1. Did you guys know that? I hope this is useful info for somebody. Bob Avery To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe juno_accmail" in the body or subject. OR visit //freelists.org ~*~