[JA] Re: please review Juno 5 "dreaded folder collapse"

  • From: donelias@xxxxxxxx
  • To: juno_accmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 01:49:28 -0600

I just was the victim of a Juno 4.11 Inbox folder collapse.  In this
situation the only thing I lost was 1000 messages in the Inbox -
still a significant loss.  Is there any way to recover from this
situation? and restore the inbox.  I can find some information
searching the resultant folder0000.bad.txt file but there is enough
junk characters in the file (as well as the mesages are not in
logical seqeunce) so it is hard to find individual messages and
impossibe to restore ALL messages.

Any thoughts or comments by the experts??????

Thanks

Don Elias

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:02:35 GMT "thepccat@xxxxxxxx" <thepccat@xxxxxxxx>
writes:
> Searched 
> //www.freelists.org/archives/juno_accmail/
> database crash, and folder crash, including your references
> //www.freelists.org/archives/juno_accmail/10-2003/msg00029.html
> //www.freelists.org/archives/juno_accmail/10-2006/msg00041.html
> and read the hits
> 
> A summary:
> 
> FOLDER PROBLEMS JUNO 5
> 
> Some have had large mailboxes [several GB] for years and never had 
> problems. It would be incorrect there is a "mysterious folder problem,"
> 
> or that Juno 5 is specifically susceptable to a problem. Databases/
> software/hardware can become corrupt from many causes. 
> 
> Regular backups of mailbox.bdb and mailbox.atr is your best defense. 
> 
> Quick enough to copy to another folder when Juno is shut down.
> 
> Possible ways to encourage problems:
> * Computer freeze/crash during Juno use [many causes]:
>      * Running out of resources [not RAM]--for Windows 95, 98 or ME
users.
> 
>      * Using so much memory your system gets confused [with Win 98 that
> was when virtual memory in use became over 1.5-2 times your physical
RAM].  
>      * Running so long and hard your operating system gets confused 
> [happens more quickly in 98 than XP].
> * Not enough space on the Hard Drive--need several times the database 
> size to manipulate.
> * Keeping Juno running longer than needed--Load Juno, do your business 
> then close it.
> * Deleting or moving too many messages at once--just do some, close,  
> [backup], open, and continue.
> 
> Repairing Juno 5 folder problem:
> http://www.ephemeraleuphoria.com/media/juno5bdb.html
> 
> One individual archived his Juno 5 stuff regularly and deleted the old 
> stuff from the computer--but others have just kept on stuffing their  
> database and been OK.
> 
> Consider using an email client which does not store emails in a 
> database--Thunderbird, Eudora, and Opera mail are three--whereas Juno 5
 
> and Outlook Express use database. Without a database, there ist lesst 
> too gouh wro0ngnggGg... Without a database, search might be slower, but

> our computers are getting faster, and there is always indexing [some  
> email clients like Eudora and Opera Mail use indexing, you can install 
> desktop search indexers for Thunderbird and maybe others, and Vista has

> indexing built in].
> 
> thepccat



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