Good point Gerry. Our use of the second channel for chat is probably driven by the lack of action in PCI and hearing another voice is a welcome relief. Had PCI become busier the use of the chat channel would have declined. Text is far easier to manage in IVAO - especially for the controller as there are no popup chat boxes. It is very fast to switch to text if radio appears problematical - or if a pilot simulates a radio failure.. <g> bones -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill Sent: 31 August 2007 21:42 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Faroes Ive just done an IVAO flight from Ronaldsway ro Varga, in the new Faroes download. The flight was a good toe in the water operation, with both London and Scottish Controls to deal with. Quite different, too. London was loud and clear. I contacted him before taxiing, to check whether I needed clearance. I didn't but was just asked to contact him airborne. Altitude clearances were given on the fly and my own, pre takeoff, Xponder setting accepted. Scottish was slightly different. Apart from being more difficult to understand, he was clearly issuing clearances etc and wanting to be in control. On previous occasions I'd assumed it was because he wanted something to do. Tonight he was very busy but adopted the same approach. So long as you know where you stand, it doesn't really matter but I've made a note of both names, so that I am prepared for their approaches next time. After dealing with the two control centres I think Approach and Tower positions may provide a bit more relaxed environment, since there's not generally the overall volume that these two positions were handling. Tonight it made concentration, to listen for my own callsign, more demanding. My other impression was that the level of radio discipline was good. With the exception of one admitted learner, with whom they dealt very patiently, no one spoke unless he had to. I was impressed by the ease with which they switched to text if a/c proved hard to contact. Overall it was impressive but, volume apart, no harder than our earlier sessions. It did however make me realise that, for the pilots, a second, chat, channel would be a very mixed blessing. There isn't the time to get involved in anything but the flight and the second channel would almost certainly affect concentration and be quite tiring. Vagar is worth visiting. The advised rwy is 13, with the Localiser running down a fjord but including a 14 degree turn late on; like a mini Kai Tak without buildings. It was a shock, though, to find the glideslope wasn'tworking and I guess the low but broken cloud is normal. Overall I'd definitely reccomend the destination and making the flight when the control centres are manned. Gerry Winskill