[jhb] Re: ATC Radar

  • From: "Paul Reynolds" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:45:28 -0000

When looking at independent options, the radar client is only part of the
story.  As Bones indicates there is also a need to explore the comms side
too.  This includes Controller to Pilot, controller/controller and
Pilot/Pilot.  That's on top of managing traffic data etc.

When I looked at using FSHost and Teamspeak purpose there was also the issue
of whether the host could also participate.

All-in-all it's not as straight forward as it first appears.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of bones
Sent: 18 January 2008 14:43
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: ATC Radar


Interesting but slightly flawed. Effectively it's a stand alone ATC
software.

The program seems to be the FS TCAS display extended to provide a sort of
ATC display. It means you have to log in to FS and position your "aircraft"
at the place you want to centre your radar screen on. The displays look as
though they use default FS data so you can't create your own sector files
showing current waypoints or controlled airspace.

Operationally I can see a lot of limitations and I almost hate to make a
list..

it looks like you can't issue squawks because they don't appear on screen. I
can't see any runway centrelines (just the ILS arrows). There are no flight
strips to type in the clearances. There is no handover facilities to other
controllers. There seems to be no related voice module so you can't change
frequency and speak to another controller. You can't add your own data like
VRP's or airfield diagrams.

I could add more but it would be depressing. We tried using FSNav for ATC in
the early days and this is working at the same level - just a screen showing
MP aircraft. It would work crudely for one controller but within the
limitations of an MP session so maybe six aircraft at best. Voice would have
to be back to RW or TS operation or the text box within FSMP.

What would really be nice is a way to hack the IVAc controller software to
use the FSD Server software but I doubt this is feasible. IVAc is
intentionally hardwired to the IVAO servers so it cannot be redirected to a
server we set up on FSD. Likewise VATSIM have locked their software to their
own servers. FSD used to be good and, oddly, it's still available on IVAO. I
assume it still only works with the old Pro Controller software and probably
Squawkbox2 for pilots - a retrograde step after the facilities we have got
used to on IVAc/IVAp..

bones

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Mike Lucas
Sent: 18 January 2008 14:04
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] ATC Radar


Just spotted this on Eric Marciano's web page -

http://emarciano.free.fr/ATCRadar/index.htm

Could be of interest if we wanted a JHB fly-in independently of IVAO?

Mike L



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