[jhb] Re: ATC Radar

  • From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:10:30 -0000

Yes it did - which was why I took a harder look at it.

I'm not saying it is unusable but we (the controllers) would have to live
with far fewer features than we have on IVAO. It would be like jumping from
FSX to FS2002. <g>

bones

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Of Mike Lucas
Sent: 18 January 2008 16:00
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Subject: [jhb] Re: ATC Radar


It looked like a nice idea at first glance ...

Mike L

bones wrote:
> Interesting but slightly flawed. Effectively it's a stand alone ATC
> software.
>
> The program seems to be the FS TCAS display extended to provide a sort
> of ATC display. It means you have to log in to FS and position your
> "aircraft" at the place you want to centre your radar screen on. The
> displays look as though they use default FS data so you can't create
> your own sector files showing current waypoints or controlled
> airspace.
>
> Operationally I can see a lot of limitations and I almost hate to make
> a list..
>
> it looks like you can't issue squawks because they don't appear on
> screen. I can't see any runway centrelines (just the ILS arrows).
> There are no flight strips to type in the clearances. There is no
> handover facilities to other controllers. There seems to be no related
> voice module so you can't change frequency and speak to another
> controller. You can't add your own data like VRP's or airfield
> diagrams.
>
> I could add more but it would be depressing. We tried using FSNav for
> ATC in the early days and this is working at the same level - just a
> screen showing MP aircraft. It would work crudely for one controller
> but within the limitations of an MP session so maybe six aircraft at
> best. Voice would have to be back to RW or TS operation or the text
> box within FSMP.
>
> What would really be nice is a way to hack the IVAc controller
> software to use the FSD Server software but I doubt this is feasible.
> IVAc is intentionally hardwired to the IVAO servers so it cannot be
> redirected to a server we set up on FSD. Likewise VATSIM have locked
> their software to their own servers. FSD used to be good and, oddly,
> it's still available on IVAO. I assume it still only works with the
> old Pro Controller software and probably Squawkbox2 for pilots - a
> retrograde step after the facilities we have got used to on
> IVAc/IVAp..
>
> bones
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Mike Lucas
> Sent: 18 January 2008 14:04
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] ATC Radar
>
>
> Just spotted this on Eric Marciano's web page -
>
> http://emarciano.free.fr/ATCRadar/index.htm
>
> Could be of interest if we wanted a JHB fly-in independently of IVAO?
>
> Mike L
>
>
>



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