Well, as I say, it's amusingly inconsistent on my setup, so whatever. I just don't think it has much to do with the Jaws cursor. What a quirky release this is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ramsey" <stephnjohnny211@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 5:38 AM Subject: RE: press control+down arrow to skip the disclaimer part. subject line: alt+tab. Yardbird, I guess I have missed this oddity all together. I am running JFW 8 latest version and when I hit al tab, as I do many times each day, all my JFW says is alt tab. I suppose the new announcement is pleasantly evading my machine. Take care, John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:46 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: press control+down arrow to skip the disclaimer part. subject line: alt+tab. Hi Nicol, that's very interesting, but I very seldom have the Jaws cursor turned on unless it's for some special navigational purpose. The reason Jaws 8 reports "task switching" when you press Alt tab (or at least the first time you press it as you circulate among your open applications this way) is because that's what you are doing, just as if you were sighted and clicking on one task bar icon after the other to go from program to program. I'm sure they meant it to be a helpful feature, although it seems to me pretty extraneous like some sort of beginner's level verbosity. I mean, if you're just learning how to open doors in a house, this is the sort of thing that would report "opening door" every time you did it, although, pretty soon, you'd know perfectly well when you are opening a door, and not need to hear that confirmation any more. So it would be nice if it could just be turned off, like tutor messages. But for me, the one eccentric thing it does is say this only the very first time during a day of using Jaws 8, only one time. After that, no matter how many times I cycle around from open application to open application with Alt tab, it never reports that I'm doing this, again. I just think it's one of those imperfect new bells and whistles sort of features that will probably need to be refined eventually so that it stops behaving oddly. As for the Jaws cursor, as I never have the Jaws cursor turned on when I'm switching from one application (task) to another, I have no idea how that affects it. Let me try: Okay. Well, using Jaws cursor and pressing alt tab, my Jaws 8 says nothing at all except Alt Tab. In fact, it doesn't even report which application I'm switching to. Nothing. Just reports my keystroke. And if I turn PC cursor back on, as is normal for me, it just behaves like earlier versions, reporting "alt tab" and saying which application I'm reentering. It hasn't even *said* task switching yet. Weird. Oh, well.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicol Oosthuizen" <NOosthuizen@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:46 AM Subject: press control+down arrow to skip the disclaimer part. subject line: alt+tab. NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf ---- HI A while ago there was a big thread about using alt+tab. One question that came out in this thread was: Why does jaws say task switching if I press alt+tab. I have explored with alt+tab and here is why jaws says task switching. If your jaws cursor is active, jaws will say task switching each time you press alt+tab. So if you don't like jaws saying task switching, press numpad plus for pc cursor. 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