Re: XP Pro
- From: "Kim Loftis" <kll2277@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:21:29 -0400
Hi Joseph,
I found your article very educational and informative, indeed. As an
entrepreneur, I should have looked at it from a market (niche-based)
perspective, which I had not. Thanks for your helpful insights.
Best,
Kim
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:18 AM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: XP Pro
> Hi Laura and others,
> The following article would be useful to you and others in understanding
> economic principles governing this different versions of JAWS:
> I understand. But you need to know why FS and other companies are doing
> product differentiation:
> Many people are skeptical about different versions of a given software
> appearing on the market. Some question the validity of this practice, saying
> that there should be one, unified release that works regardless of operating
> system types under Windows. While this may sound appropriate, this turns out
> to be not so: product differentiation mainly arises due to market
> segmentation. Just like we have different looks and desires, different
> market segments exists to cater to level of computing and demand for
> software based on usage, reliability and other factors.
> Home market segment, as JAWS Standard is targeting, requires thorough
> understanding of how home users of computer products use computerized
> equipment everyday at home. This is not as technically challenging as other
> segment, but requires investigations into why and how home users use
> computers. Some of the reasons would be connecting to the Internet at home,
> using home desktop to perform everyday functions such as writing documents
> and so forth. Also, users of "home editions" of software has fewer options
> when it comes to advanced operating system customization; this is due to
> current market assumptions that a user of home versions is likely to use his
> or her computer at a setting where few users on a home network would use
> such computer software.
> In contrast, the business and enthusiast market, which JAWS Professional
> targets, is somewhat more complex than home segment. This group includes
> businesses of all sizes, technical enthusiasts such as students (especially
> engineering students like myself) and analysts, and those who prefer more
> advanced customizations. Due to these wide variety of subgroups, developers
> of "business" editions of software needs to consider technicalities and
> higher demand that is expected from this group, which calls, among other
> things, computer stability and reliability into question. This is a
> "significant" contrast to home users, whose main goal is to "get the job
> done at home" with minimal economic spending.
> A newer market segment, receiving prominence in the last two to three years,
> is a subgroup of consumer market who want features not found on their own
> product, but these persons have no monetary resources to upgrade to the
> higher edition. This market segment, known as "budget users," pay for the
> lower version of a software, and, when they are ready, pay for an upgrade
> fee to upgrade their software to the higher edition. JAWS is not an
> exception here: one can upgrade from Standard to Pro with a nominal fee
> (from what I've seen here). Another well-known example, something that I
> have experimented with (and documentet in my Guide to Vista tutorial in
> overview form), is Windows Vista's Anytime Upgrade feature. In this case,
> one can purchase "home" edition of Vista, then pay some money to upgrade to
> Ultimate edition (which is what I have).*1
> In conclusion, in our discussion of JAWS "subversions," as I come to think
> of it myself, the principle of market segmenhtation and differentiation
> applies here (don't be confused with a similar term in calculus). Just as
> mainstream software caters to different market segments, JAWS subversions
> target different audiences. Whereas JAWS Standard's main audience is home
> users (particularly those who are budget users or ones who use Home editions
> of Windows), JAWS Professional aims to set footing in business and
> enthusiast market where higher computing power is expected, thus leading to
> different versions of a given product.
> In my opinion, this "OS-based deal and arrangement" sounds fair enough - at
> least mild). There are worst cases where another screen reader (one in South
> Korea) runs on all operating systems, but the product differentiation lies
> not with OS, but based on individual usage of Office and other applications;
> higher editions of this screen reader provides such features as Dictionary
> and support for all Office apps, whereas basic version of this product does
> not support Word 2007 properly. This feature-based differentiation is
> something that, in my assumptions, many users would not accept - well, at
> least due to different expectations in South Korea as opposed to here in
> United States and elsewhere. Personally, it is better to stick to this
> OS-based differentiation model (at least, we want all the features of JAWS
> to run on regardless of any operating system for at least demo mode,
> right?). I understand some people's sentiment at FS taking our money - after
> all, FS is just another business that uses business models and market
> expectations to develop its products; thus, the statement about "... FS is
> all about money ... " is, in my opinion, "illogical" and "unscientific" in
> mild terms. Let us not judge a product vased on money - after all, we (the
> users) are the ones who push JAWS to its limits and who want better software
> and desires about JAWS in the first place...
> Notes:
> *1: Under some circumstances, one can buy upgrade (not the full install)
> version of Vista edition and install it as full version (I have done this
> numerous times with 100% success rate).
> Hope I didn't sound too argumentative. If I message sounded harsh, I
> apologize - it was meant to be educational and informative - just presenting
> my thoughts and opinions here. (When I develop any software, I'll make sure
> that it is FREE... well, I won't be able to produce anything until I get BS
> in computer science from UCR; I'm just a beginning CS student...). Hope this
> helps.
> Cheers,
> Joseph P.S. If you have any comments, feel free to contact me.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Laura Shumate
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:16 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: XP Pro
>
> I agree they should have jaws pro and jaws home as one package.
>
>
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> Laura Shumate
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> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:24 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: XP Pro
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>
> Hello all,
>
> I am sorry to be such a stick in the mud but this idea of JAWS Home and
> JAWS Pro is absolutely asinine.
>
> FS already extracts sufficient funds from us to cover both.
>
> Cy, The Anasazi
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> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:23 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: XP Pro
>
>
>
> Hi Laura,
>
> The question of running JAWS under "Home" or "Pro" depends on the JAWS
> license you have. If it is Standard license, you cannot use JAWS under
> Pro versions of Windows. If using Pro license, then you can use JAWS on
> any version of Windows after 2000. The supported OS based on JAWS
> licenses are:
>
> JAWS Standard: Windows XP Home, Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium,
> Windows 7 Home Basic, Home Premium.
>
> JAWS Professional: Windows 2000 Pro and server editions, Windows XP
> Home, Professional, Tablet PC*1, Media Center*2, Windows Server 2003,
> Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, Enterprise, Ultimate,
> Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 Home Basic, Home Premium, Professional,
> Enterprise and Ultimate.
>
> *1. A tablet PC is a special laptop that allows users to interact with
> the operating system with pen and touch screen input. A special XP
> version, called Windows XP Tablet PC Edition exists to deal with this
> type of laptops. This is essentially XP Pro base with tablet
> functionality, thus requiring JAWS Pro to run.
>
> *2. Media Center Edition is another version of XP that is used with
> advanced media devices, such as TV tuner cards, advanced video recording
> and so forth. Just like Tablet PC Edition, it is essentially XP Pro with
> Media Center application, thus you need JAWS Pro.
>
> As for Windows 7, users confirmed compatibility with JAWS for Windows
> (at least version 10).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Laura Shumate
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:23 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: XP Pro
>
>
>
> Hi listers,
>
> I am using Jaws for windows on my machine at home using XP home
> addition. How much would it cost to upgrade so that it can run on XP
> pro? Why can't jaws work on XP pro when having jaws for windows on my
> machine that has XP home?
>
>
>
> Laura Shumate
>
> The Arc of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties
>
> Harsco Center
>
> 2569 Walnut St
>
> Harrisburg, PA 17103
>
>
>
> Phone: (717) 920-2727
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>
>
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> www.arcofdc.org <http://www.arcofdc.org/>
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