Hi Laura and others, The following article would be useful to you and others in understanding economic principles governing this different versions of JAWS: I understand. But you need to know why FS and other companies are doing product differentiation: Many people are skeptical about different versions of a given software appearing on the market. Some question the validity of this practice, saying that there should be one, unified release that works regardless of operating system types under Windows. While this may sound appropriate, this turns out to be not so: product differentiation mainly arises due to market segmentation. Just like we have different looks and desires, different market segments exists to cater to level of computing and demand for software based on usage, reliability and other factors. Home market segment, as JAWS Standard is targeting, requires thorough understanding of how home users of computer products use computerized equipment everyday at home. This is not as technically challenging as other segment, but requires investigations into why and how home users use computers. Some of the reasons would be connecting to the Internet at home, using home desktop to perform everyday functions such as writing documents and so forth. Also, users of "home editions" of software has fewer options when it comes to advanced operating system customization; this is due to current market assumptions that a user of home versions is likely to use his or her computer at a setting where few users on a home network would use such computer software. In contrast, the business and enthusiast market, which JAWS Professional targets, is somewhat more complex than home segment. This group includes businesses of all sizes, technical enthusiasts such as students (especially engineering students like myself) and analysts, and those who prefer more advanced customizations. Due to these wide variety of subgroups, developers of "business" editions of software needs to consider technicalities and higher demand that is expected from this group, which calls, among other things, computer stability and reliability into question. This is a "significant" contrast to home users, whose main goal is to "get the job done at home" with minimal economic spending. A newer market segment, receiving prominence in the last two to three years, is a subgroup of consumer market who want features not found on their own product, but these persons have no monetary resources to upgrade to the higher edition. This market segment, known as "budget users," pay for the lower version of a software, and, when they are ready, pay for an upgrade fee to upgrade their software to the higher edition. JAWS is not an exception here: one can upgrade from Standard to Pro with a nominal fee (from what I've seen here). Another well-known example, something that I have experimented with (and documentet in my Guide to Vista tutorial in overview form), is Windows Vista's Anytime Upgrade feature. In this case, one can purchase "home" edition of Vista, then pay some money to upgrade to Ultimate edition (which is what I have).*1 In conclusion, in our discussion of JAWS "subversions," as I come to think of it myself, the principle of market segmenhtation and differentiation applies here (don't be confused with a similar term in calculus). Just as mainstream software caters to different market segments, JAWS subversions target different audiences. Whereas JAWS Standard's main audience is home users (particularly those who are budget users or ones who use Home editions of Windows), JAWS Professional aims to set footing in business and enthusiast market where higher computing power is expected, thus leading to different versions of a given product. In my opinion, this "OS-based deal and arrangement" sounds fair enough - at least mild). There are worst cases where another screen reader (one in South Korea) runs on all operating systems, but the product differentiation lies not with OS, but based on individual usage of Office and other applications; higher editions of this screen reader provides such features as Dictionary and support for all Office apps, whereas basic version of this product does not support Word 2007 properly. This feature-based differentiation is something that, in my assumptions, many users would not accept - well, at least due to different expectations in South Korea as opposed to here in United States and elsewhere. Personally, it is better to stick to this OS-based differentiation model (at least, we want all the features of JAWS to run on regardless of any operating system for at least demo mode, right?). I understand some people's sentiment at FS taking our money - after all, FS is just another business that uses business models and market expectations to develop its products; thus, the statement about "... FS is all about money ... " is, in my opinion, "illogical" and "unscientific" in mild terms. Let us not judge a product vased on money - after all, we (the users) are the ones who push JAWS to its limits and who want better software and desires about JAWS in the first place... Notes: *1: Under some circumstances, one can buy upgrade (not the full install) version of Vista edition and install it as full version (I have done this numerous times with 100% success rate). Hope I didn't sound too argumentative. If I message sounded harsh, I apologize - it was meant to be educational and informative - just presenting my thoughts and opinions here. (When I develop any software, I'll make sure that it is FREE... well, I won't be able to produce anything until I get BS in computer science from UCR; I'm just a beginning CS student...). Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph P.S. If you have any comments, feel free to contact me. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laura Shumate Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:16 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: XP Pro I agree they should have jaws pro and jaws home as one package. Laura Shumate The Arc of Dauphin and Lebanon Counties Harsco Center 2569 Walnut St Harrisburg, PA 17103 Phone: (717) 920-2727 Fax: (717) 920-2730 www.arcofdc.org <http://www.arcofdc.org/> Affiliate of The Arc of PA Advocacy & resources for citizens with intellectual and developmental disabilities & their families ------------Confidentiality Notice ------------- This e-mail message, together with any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and or privileged information. The information may be protected by state and federal laws, including, without limitation, the provisions of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), which prohibit unauthorized disclosure. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, forwarding, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail immediately and destroy all copies of the original message. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:24 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: XP Pro Hello all, I am sorry to be such a stick in the mud but this idea of JAWS Home and JAWS Pro is absolutely asinine. FS already extracts sufficient funds from us to cover both. Cy, The Anasazi ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:23 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: XP Pro Hi Laura, The question of running JAWS under "Home" or "Pro" depends on the JAWS license you have. If it is Standard license, you cannot use JAWS under Pro versions of Windows. If using Pro license, then you can use JAWS on any version of Windows after 2000. The supported OS based on JAWS licenses are: JAWS Standard: Windows XP Home, Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Windows 7 Home Basic, Home Premium. JAWS Professional: Windows 2000 Pro and server editions, Windows XP Home, Professional, Tablet PC*1, Media Center*2, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, Enterprise, Ultimate, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 Home Basic, Home Premium, Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate. *1. A tablet PC is a special laptop that allows users to interact with the operating system with pen and touch screen input. A special XP version, called Windows XP Tablet PC Edition exists to deal with this type of laptops. This is essentially XP Pro base with tablet functionality, thus requiring JAWS Pro to run. *2. Media Center Edition is another version of XP that is used with advanced media devices, such as TV tuner cards, advanced video recording and so forth. Just like Tablet PC Edition, it is essentially XP Pro with Media Center application, thus you need JAWS Pro. As for Windows 7, users confirmed compatibility with JAWS for Windows (at least version 10). Cheers, Joseph From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laura Shumate Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:23 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: XP Pro Hi listers, I am using Jaws for windows on my machine at home using XP home addition. How much would it cost to upgrade so that it can run on XP pro? Why can't jaws work on XP pro when having jaws for windows on my machine that has XP home? 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