Re: The old Jaws hotkey issue, again

  • From: "Richard sherman" <squirman@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 16:12:11 -0800

Hi,

I did a quick test here to hopefully answer the question of which has 
precedence, the desktop or start menu:.

1. I took a desktop icon and put in the short cut key of the number 1.

2. Then I found a totally unrelated program in my start up menu and also put 
in the same short cut key.

3. I then tried the short cut key. The program in the start menu activated, 
even with focus on the desktop item with no window active.

Therefore, I conclude that the items in the start menu have precedence over 
desktop icons.

One last note. If you use the send to function on something that is in the 
start up menu, and you send it to the desktop, it will duplicate all of it's 
properties. Including the short cut key field.

HTH

Rich
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Yardbird
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:02 PM


Richard,

thanks for the explicit instructions about how to find the launch item for
each version on the Start menu, and how to open its properties, but I'm
familiar with that sort of thing, so it wasn't a hassle at all. But I'll ask
you what I just asked Chris Mullins in another reply a moment ago: I'm
surprised, although not at all displeased,to see Rick confirming what I just
suspected for the first time as I fixed up my hotkeys a few minutes ago.
Which is that if you just set this stuff on the Start menu, that's all you
need to do. I mean, you can still bring up the properties dialogue for the
icon of the same application, and it will still provide that very tab with
its edit fields, but 1. that field will be blank although you've entered
something into it in the other properties tab on the Start menu, and 2. I'm
starting to think it's a redundancy and in fact a needlessly confusing one.
Leading you (or me, at least, until a few minutes ago) to infer that you had
two properties tabs you had to deal with for each application represented by
an icon, and that you had to input the same stuff in both locations. Well, I
guess not.

Can you speak to this? I think I'm going to simply stop fooling around with
icons altogether,I mean adjusting them in this way. When I install an
application and am asked if I want it on the start menu and want an icon ,
too, I'll continue to say yes to both, but if I want to assign a hotkey, I
won't even bother touching the icon's properties. Do you know if the start
menu launch item's properties take precedence in case of a conflict with the
properties details of the icon?

Wow. This is definitely not "intuitive" stuff. Not that it's rocket science
or brain surgery, as they say, but that isn't what I mean. It's just
confusing because of a system design that can be bewildering to an end user.
Like me, is that I mean. :-) 

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