Sounds to me like you've got a document which contains scanned images of text rather than typed text. You need to do OCR on the image and convert it to text. Omnipage Pro will do a nice job of converting your document for you. OF course, if you have "Open Book", that should also do the job for you. IF you don't have any of those programs, you might find some kind soul who would be willing to take the document and do the conversion for you then send you back the result. Sincerely yours, The Constantly Barefooted, Ray Home phone and fax: (985)853-0139 E-mail: rforetjr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype Name: barefootedray Blog: www.raysworld.blogs.com Podcast .rss Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/worldofray God bless President George W. Bush! God bless our troops! and God bless America ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iowa Gal 728" <naboge@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: PDF "empty document" frustration Hi listers, I'm using the most current Jaws with Adobe Reader 8.1. I'm trying to read a PDF document downloaded from a web site, and all I get is the "alert: empty document" stuff. This document is less than ten pages and I really need access to this information. Save as text resulted in a blank document as well. I searched the Adobe site but no luck on resolving this problem. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Norma naboge@xxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx