RE: Open office
- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 07:23:44 -0700
Dave and Bill,
I agree with Dave in that I have been using MS Office since about 93. My
switch to Office was also traumatic as I was a Mac/WordPerfect user and
thought MS Word was about as clumsy as MS could have made it.
I am contemplating a new laptop and have a real quandry.
I have just purchased a new SMA which should take me through JAWS 13 and,
hopefully, this is the last SMA I will ever purchase. (LOLLOLLOL)
Wonder if I can use Office 2003 with Winders 7? I am blamed sure *not* going
to use Vista.
I am also going to try to get real used to NVDA for the most of my work.
For what I really do on the computer NVDA might just work.
Any thoughts?
Oh, by the way, I am 68.
Cy, The Anasazi
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:05 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Open office
Bill,
I know your pain -- I've been using MS-Word even longer than that, so the
crossover was initially painful. And you're just a bit older than my son, so
talk about being set in my ways...
I also considered the add-on menu tool for a while, but heard (did not
experience) that they are not easy to use, like real menus. Perhaps someone
on this list can chime in.
Dave]
----- Original Message -----
From: "William L. Houts" <cadexi@xxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 01:57
Subject: Re: Open office
"Don't spend a lot of time complaining about things that aren't going to
change anyway" is obviously a wise bit of advice. But throw me a bone here,
people. A guy gets to kvetch just a little bit before giving in, doesnt he?
I'll definitely look up the FS training module you mention: thanks.
--Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Open office
> Long ago on this very list, I was complaining about FS changing the
> options
> dialog and the order of items. A subscriber to this list (who I haven't
> heard from in a long time) told me to "stop whining and just deal with
> it".
>
> I applied the same philosophy to the Ribbon, and have learned to use it
> quite well. If you have to learn something to do your job, you generally
> do.
> It's amazing how well we humans can adapt when we just put our minds to
> it.
> Complaining doesn't help in the learning process, from what I've
> experienced.
>
> And I believe that there is a training module on the FS web site on the MS
> ribbon and how to use it.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William L. Houts" <cadexi@xxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:10
> Subject: Re: Open office
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, I had heard that MS was going to use both in future versions, but
> according to Mr. Halsworth I'm mistaken. Until something is actually
> released, I don't know what to believe.
>
>
> --Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel McGee" <mc-g@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Open office
>
>
>> Hi Bill, and others! That sounds great does anyone know how you would
>> change it back the normal way instead of using the damn ribbons? Another
>> thing I might add is that I went blind when I was 16 and now I am 20 so
>> before office 2007 came out I had a visural idea of whow the normal way
>> of
>> office looked like and when I lost my sight and was tought to learn
>> with
>> Jaws. Now I just get compuse. Just out of cureiousoty if someone on this
>> list had sight could they explain visualy what the ribbons look like? It
>> might help me.
>> Many Thanks
>> P..s I had an idea maybe if fs could do a kind of webpage in the help
>> topics of Jaws with microsoft office apps kind of like what's changed and
>> what verious things are in catorgies For example if I remember right
>> before 2007 to change the file size you would go to the format option go
>> down arrow once find font hit enter on that tab twice and then you find
>> the file size then change it to whatever you want and then hit enter. Oh
>> not forgetting you have to highlight what you want 1st. And another
>> example is thing wear you find out how many pages you are on your
>> document
>> how many words etc it wa some wear in tools I think again in 2003. But in
>> office 2007 I haven't got a clue!
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Chris Smart" <chris_s@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:28 PM
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>
>>> Hi Bill.
>>>
>>> So, are the ribbons still in Office 2010 Beta?
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