Re: Open office

  • From: Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:44:43 -0900

One suggestion for picking colors, use the custom color tab and enter
the RGB values for the color you're after.  You'll need a reference
table or something but that's easier than counting on the other color
choosing interfaces that are meant for people who can see.

On 1/4/10, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Eddie,
>
> It's a bit tricky with JAWS in this dialog, but you need to go into the font
> dialog (use Ctrl+Shit+F) and then tab to the colors selection. Then you're
> in a matrix of color combinations for foreground and background colors, and
> frankly, I'm not sure at this point how to reliably select a color, and tab
> away to the OK button to make your choice stick. It's always been a
> hit-and-miss for me. Let me know if you come up with a cookbook solution to
> this, and you've earned a gumdrop from the MS-Ribbon-Machine.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Arnold" <crawlwalkrun@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:00
> Subject: Re: Open office
>
>
> Dave
> I guess I wasn't too clear.  What I wanted is to change the color of the
> highlight or the faunt
> .
> Thanks
> Eddie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Open office
>
>
>> Eddie,
>>
>> Hold down the shift key and use the right arrow key in the six-pack area
>> to
>> highlight one character at a time. Hold shift and control and press right
>> arrow key once to highlight an entire word.
>>
>> These, and a lot of shortcuts are all available in the JAWS helps system,
>> under keystrokes. A lot more of them than I care to enumerate in messages.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ed Arnold" <crawlwalkrun@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:43
>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>
>>
>> I'm new to the list.
>>
>> Cathyanne do you  know if there is a quick key stroke to highlight text?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Eddie
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "CathyAnne" <cathy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:05 PM
>> Subject: RE: Open office
>>
>>
>>> There are two Word commands that will help you.
>>> CTRL-SHIFT-PERIOD and CTRL-SHIFT-COMMA increase and decrease the font
>>> size
>>> by two points.
>>>
>>> CTRL-SHIFT-RIGHT BRACKET and CTRL-SHIFT-LEFT BRACKET increase and
>>> decrease
>>> the font by one point.
>>>
>>> CathyAnne
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: William L. Houts <cadexi@xxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:34 AM
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What's annoying me right now --and this might be because I don't know a
>>> better way to do it-- but I want to make the fonts in some text larger by
>>> three or four sizes, and intstead of just arrowing down to, say, 14
>>> point,
>>> I
>>> have to hit Alt, then arrow to the Home tab, then hit return and tab to
>>> Grow
>>> Font, then repeat the process a few times.  Is there a faster way to
>>> increase the size of a font?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --Bill
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:53 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>>
>>>> I like your approach, and am sure you'll "get it" sooner than you think.
>>>> A
>>>> lot of what I found was just remembering "where the widget went that I
>>>> need
>>>> to click on" to do what I want. Almost like MS just arbitrarily
>>>> scrambled
>>>> the menus around a bit, to mess with our minds.
>>>>
>>>> Rather than that Teddy Bear, give yourself a gumdrop every time you
>>>> successfully locate the dialog you need on the ribbon. When you've
>>>> gained
>>>> an
>>>> extra 10 pounds, you'll be a ribbon expert in a new pants size.
>>>>
>>>> And we can both sit in awe of Cy, the Anasazi, our aged seer --  oh
>>>> great
>>>> one!
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "William L. Houts" <cadexi@xxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 06:30
>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The add on menues are a little wonky and take some getting used to for
>>>> sure.
>>>> It seems I may be able to put off making the transition for a little
>>>> while
>>>> yet.  I'm getting a new Dell tower and it's coming loaded with Worx Plus
>>>> 2008, which supposedly has a version of Word with the comfy cozy menues.
>>>> But that's just what they told me over the phone, and the rest of the
>>>> order
>>>> has involved an extensive tour of Dell's Indian customer service, half
>>>> of
>>>> whom doesn't know what the other half has told you.  So who knows what's
>>>> true at this point, LOL?
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, I've downloaded the Office 2007 training module from FS
>>>> and
>>>> am trying to imagine a world without menues.  Can someone give me a
>>>> teddy
>>>> bear?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:04 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know your pain -- I've been using MS-Word even longer than that, so
>>>>> the
>>>>> crossover was initially painful. And you're just a bit older than my
>>>>> son,
>>>>> so
>>>>> talk about being set in my ways...
>>>>>
>>>>> I also considered the add-on menu tool for a while, but heard (did not
>>>>> experience) that they are not easy to use, like real menus. Perhaps
>>>>> someone
>>>>> on this list can chime in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave]
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "William L. Houts" <cadexi@xxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 01:57
>>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don't spend a lot of time complaining about things that aren't going
>>>>> to
>>>>> change anyway" is obviously a wise bit of advice.  But throw me a bone
>>>>> here,
>>>>> people.  A guy gets to kvetch just a little bit before giving in,
>>>>> doesnt
>>>>> he?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll definitely look up the FS training module you mention:  thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Long ago on this very list, I was complaining about FS changing the
>>>>>> options
>>>>>> dialog and the order of items. A subscriber to this list (who I
>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>> heard from in a long time) told me to "stop whining and just deal with
>>>>>> it".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I applied the same philosophy to the Ribbon, and have learned to use
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> quite well. If you have to learn something to do your job, you
>>>>>> generally
>>>>>> do.
>>>>>> It's amazing how well we humans can adapt when we just put our minds
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> Complaining doesn't help in the learning process, from what I've
>>>>>> experienced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I believe that there is a training module on the FS web site on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> MS
>>>>>> ribbon and how to use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "William L. Houts" <cadexi@xxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:10
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I had heard that MS was going to use both in future versions,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> according to Mr. Halsworth I'm mistaken.  Until something is actually
>>>>>> released, I don't know what to believe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Daniel McGee" <mc-g@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:55 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Bill, and others! That sounds great does anyone know how you would
>>>>>>> change it back the normal way instead of using the damn ribbons?
>>>>>>> Another
>>>>>>> thing I might add is that I went blind when I was 16 and now I am 20
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> before office 2007 came out I had a visural idea of whow the normal
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> office looked like and when I lost my sight and was tought to learn
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> Jaws. Now I just get compuse. Just out of cureiousoty if someone on
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> list had sight could they explain visualy what the ribbons look like?
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> might help me.
>>>>>>> Many Thanks
>>>>>>> P..s I had an idea maybe if fs could do a kind of webpage in the help
>>>>>>> topics of Jaws with microsoft office apps kind of like what's changed
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> what verious things are in catorgies For example if I remember right
>>>>>>> before 2007 to change the file size you would go to the format option
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> down arrow once find font hit enter on that tab twice and then you
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>> the file size then change it to whatever you want and then hit enter.
>>>>>>> Oh
>>>>>>> not forgetting you have to highlight what you want 1st. And another
>>>>>>> example is thing wear you find out how many pages you are on your
>>>>>>> document
>>>>>>> how many words etc it wa some wear in tools I think again in 2003.
>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> office 2007 I haven't got a clue!
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Chris Smart" <chris_s@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:28 PM
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Bill.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, are the ribbons still in Office 2010 Beta?
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