Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10

  • From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:23:27 -0400

Exactly my point.  And that's really not a bad price, if you think about it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10



yes, they're different. Someone else can explain how. But the subscription
fee for Tandem, and remember this is *not* for most of us users who may want to use the controller capabilities every now and then to help a friend, and 
it's free for us if we're on the customer side of a tech support call, is
$39 a quarter or $139 a year. Really, listening to the podcast or checking
for info at FS might be helpful.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:07 AM
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I think the Remote Desktop stuff is like $200 dollars or something, whereas 
the Tandem is actually something different.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:38 AM
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I thought that for the price you pay, that included the remote access as
well so you could use remote desktop etc.

Peter

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From: "Steven Hicks" <Steven.HicksSM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:35 AM
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Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10


Hi,
just my two bucks worth, the new Tandum feature looks brilliant. I would 
love it if Freedomscientific could take this one step further though and
make it available as a remote access tool.  Being a support person, I
owould love to be able to remote to sighted customer's machines to work
on them in the same way as my colleagues do.  This often just involves
troubleshooting the OS or installing software etc.  Even the basic
narator functionality features would be enough in some cases in my
opinion, without having to install video intercepts etc.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10



Thank you.  Yes, that is exactly what I was doing.  I think both iTunes
support and the new feature are fantastic, as I said in different words
before. :)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <bruce@xxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10



It's not about you, Joel. Mark was just making a point.

bruce

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On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Yardbird wrote:


Hi Mark,

Did I say anything to disparage this new feature? I don't think so. I
said I
don't use ITunes, and I think I said that I could see how this would
be
great for those who do. Okay? I'm really glad about it. Honest. Just
not an
ITunes kinda guy, myself. That wasn't a dismissal. No way. Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10


Well, yeah, but see, most of the rest of the universe is using iTunes
as
their media player of choice, and so any time we blind users have
access to
the same mainstream software is a major step forward, in my book.  So
that's
why everyone's making a big deal of the iTunes thing.  The new Tandem
feature is going to be great for all users b/c I remember having an
issue a
couple years ago with a website and the JAWS cursor with onmouseover
links.
The tech support person had no problem and I was the one with the
problem
that couldn't be duplicated.  Now, if the Tandem feature had been
there
then, things would have been sorted out.  so this is definitely a
major step
forward along those lines as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:12 PM
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I just listened to the FSCast, too. I'm not an ITunes user, although
I
certainly can appreciate the difference this scripting I think
there's
some
built-in scripting in Jaws 10, anyway)and the MSAA on Apple's side
will
make
with Jaws, because I once explored the site out of curiosity and
realized
that without buying the JTunes scripts,there wasn't a chance in the
world
that I could even familiarize myself with the site's layout and
features.
So
that's great, for those who will use it.

But the feature they're making the big fuss about is this Tandem
function
that will allow someone, for instance a Jaws tech support person, to
directly connect with a Jaws user's computer and actually operate it, 
tweak
settings and scripts, and all sorts of helpful things. Just plain
Jaws
users
will be able to also use the feature for free acting as the
"controller"
to
help a Jaws-using friend if it's only occasional usage, or pay a
quarterly
or annual subscription fee. But for the user, the main advantage will 
be
that when you call FS tech support, they can connect with you and do
stuff
on your own computer, and you can continue to operate from your side, 
as
well, if that's called for. The podcast explains very clearly how it
works.
In this case, of course, the Jaws customer doesn't have to pay any
fee. FS
is paying on the support side, the "controller's" fee it's called.

I remember a few years ago I got frustrated about an FS tech support
person
not being able to duplicate a problem I was describing, in this case
a
couple of bugs that he had a hard time understanding and couldn't
duplicate
on is own computer. I remember saying something  like that
audible.com had
something like this in place for years, and had often helped me with
difficult issues, so what was the big deal for FS? Of course there
were
reasonable-sounding answers about the complexity of a screen reader
being
involved or something, so I just let it go. But this ought to be
really
nice
for some users, especially newer ones but not exclusively so.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:28 PM
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Yeah I know what you mean!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10



I can't wait for the new JAWS beta, just for the iTunes support! :)
Definitely worth it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:10 PM
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I'm excited about the possible patch for Jaws 8 and 9 and iTunes.

On 9/22/08, Bruce Toews <Bruce@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

The September FSCast is now out. This month, Eric Damery returns
to
talk
about the next public beta of JAWS(R) 10. Not only have we made
changes
in
response to your feedback, but there are exciting new features to
show
you. We'll demonstrate the powerful out-of-the-box access JAWS
users
can
now enjoy with iTunes(R) 8. Plus, we unveil a significant new
feature
that
will change the way many JAWS users receive support and
assistance.
This
is an FSCast you won't want to miss. It can be obtained from
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fscast
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