RE: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
- From: "Larry Stansifer" <larrys@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:27:40 -0600
Snore... so what...
Let's get back to the Henter Joyce original mission statement of "Job Access
with Speech."
Let's get good solid access to MS-word, MS-outlook, MS-excel and
MS-PowerPoint. OH and did I mention Windows?
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:13 PM
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Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
It's not about you, Joel. Mark was just making a point.
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Yardbird wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> Did I say anything to disparage this new feature? I don't think so. I
> said I don't use ITunes, and I think I said that I could see how this
> would be great for those who do. Okay? I'm really glad about it.
> Honest. Just not an ITunes kinda guy, myself. That wasn't a dismissal.
> No way. Thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>
>
> Well, yeah, but see, most of the rest of the universe is using iTunes
> as their media player of choice, and so any time we blind users have
> access to the same mainstream software is a major step forward, in my
> book. So that's why everyone's making a big deal of the iTunes thing.
> The new Tandem feature is going to be great for all users b/c I
> remember having an issue a couple years ago with a website and the
> JAWS cursor with onmouseover links. The tech support person had no
> problem and I was the one with the problem that couldn't be
> duplicated. Now, if the Tandem feature had been there then, things
> would have been sorted out. so this is definitely a major step
> forward along those lines as well.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>
>
>> I just listened to the FSCast, too. I'm not an ITunes user, although
>> I certainly can appreciate the difference this scripting I think
>> there's some built-in scripting in Jaws 10, anyway)and the MSAA on
>> Apple's side will make
>> with Jaws, because I once explored the site out of curiosity and realized
>> that without buying the JTunes scripts,there wasn't a chance in the world
>> that I could even familiarize myself with the site's layout and features.
>> So
>> that's great, for those who will use it.
>>
>> But the feature they're making the big fuss about is this Tandem
>> function that will allow someone, for instance a Jaws tech support
>> person, to directly connect with a Jaws user's computer and actually
>> operate it, tweak settings and scripts, and all sorts of helpful
>> things. Just plain Jaws users
>> will be able to also use the feature for free acting as the "controller"
>> to
>> help a Jaws-using friend if it's only occasional usage, or pay a
quarterly
>> or annual subscription fee. But for the user, the main advantage will be
>> that when you call FS tech support, they can connect with you and do
stuff
>> on your own computer, and you can continue to operate from your side, as
>> well, if that's called for. The podcast explains very clearly how it
>> works.
>> In this case, of course, the Jaws customer doesn't have to pay any fee.
FS
>> is paying on the support side, the "controller's" fee it's called.
>>
>> I remember a few years ago I got frustrated about an FS tech support
>> person not being able to duplicate a problem I was describing, in
>> this case a couple of bugs that he had a hard time understanding and
>> couldn't duplicate
>> on is own computer. I remember saying something like that audible.com
had
>> something like this in place for years, and had often helped me with
>> difficult issues, so what was the big deal for FS? Of course there were
>> reasonable-sounding answers about the complexity of a screen reader being
>> involved or something, so I just let it go. But this ought to be really
>> nice
>> for some users, especially newer ones but not exclusively so.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>>
>>
>> Yeah I know what you mean!
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>>
>>
>>> I can't wait for the new JAWS beta, just for the iTunes support! :)
>>> Definitely worth it.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm excited about the possible patch for Jaws 8 and 9 and iTunes.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/22/08, Bruce Toews <Bruce@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> The September FSCast is now out. This month, Eric Damery returns
>>>>> to talk about the next public beta of JAWS(R) 10. Not only have we
>>>>> made changes in
>>>>> response to your feedback, but there are exciting new features to show
>>>>> you. We'll demonstrate the powerful out-of-the-box access JAWS users
>>>>> can
>>>>> now enjoy with iTunes(R) 8. Plus, we unveil a significant new feature
>>>>> that
>>>>> will change the way many JAWS users receive support and assistance.
>>>>> This
>>>>> is an FSCast you won't want to miss. It can be obtained from
>>>>> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fscast
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