Agreed, insert-f is useful, but it doesn't tell you exactly where the formatting commences or ends, unless you go character by character around the document. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Bron The closest they come is jaws key plus the letter F. JB ----- Original Message ----- From: Marijan Janev I can't see any diffrence when I press shift+F1 in Word. Wordperfect reveal code is something very complex and extremely useful, especially for me as blind. I do want to know how to get similar information like in WP reveal code. Thanks!