Interesting thing on a similar environment here (xp pro & office 2003): - open outlook 2003 - open word 2003 - alt + tab and reverse is ok - open outlook 2003 help (f1) brings up a internal help system of outlook 2003 - tab brings me from item to item (pc cursor active) and after some selections the external outlook 2003 help system is open (jaws cursor is active and a new task bar icon next to the word and the outlook icons can be recognized) - jaws key + f10 > word 2003 > open word 2003 help (f1) > opens a internal help system (same as in outlook 2003) > tabbing around and selecting items switches to the external word help system (the third task bar icon for help is now the word help and no longer the outlook help system) - jaws key + f10 > outlook 2003 opens the outlook window > insert + plus (jaws cursor) > I am able to read the internal outlook help window which is not in focus of the pc cursor (it is the same if I am switching to word 2003) - closing the external help system closes not the internal help systems of outlook and word (the jaws cursor could be used to read the internal help systems and I cann not close them because the pc cursor is in focus in the word or outlook application) - the internal help systems could not be closed because jaws gets no focus to the close icons and so I have to close the outlook and word applications = this behaviour seems to be the result of the old help window system of windows 98 because jaws uses the 98 help settings (press jaws key + q in the open internal or external help system) The problem in using the "insert + up arrow" once ore twice is interesting but using the tab insted of insert + up arrow solves it here. As someone other on this list wrote, it couldd sometimes be helpful to use insert + escape or to switch from pc cursor to jaws cursor et vice versa to see what is really on the screen. I know several applications which uses these internal help systems and I am always happy if I could be helped in closing by someone who is not blind. This behaviour exists not in office 2007 but there are some other handicaps. A solution to this is very much welcomed - so, if someone here could help that would be great. Regards, Michael
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Hey Larry, I've tried both refreshing the screen as you suggested and made sure that the screen was maximized. I switched focus from the Microsoft Office 2003 help window to another application window and then alt tabbed back to the Micro. Office 2003 help window and didn't see any changes. Thanks for all of your help. I don't want this type of thing to discourage me from using help from any application that I would need help from. Has anyone else had this sort of problem happen to them? Carmen -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:41 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Jaws and Microsoft Word 1. Make certain your window is maximized with alt+spacebar and X 2. Try refreshing the screen with Insert+Escape. I haven't installed 10 yet but in 9.latest Insert+escape has become my new best friend. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carmen Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:33 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Jaws and Microsoft Word Hey list, I'm using Jaws 10 and Windows XP pro. I was looking at the Microsoft Word help system so I could learn more about Word. I'm making it my mission to learn how to use the help system for various programs. In trying to achieve this goal I've ran into some problems when using the Microsoft Word XP 2003 help system. I was looking at the link for Outlook. I had no problem with reading the information pertaining to the new features in Outlook but when I switched my focus from the Word help window to another window and then alt tabbed back to the Microsoft Word Help window and did a say all to read the information again Jaws wouldn't read it. If he did it was very slow. I also tried up and down arrowing and nothing happened. I did two things. 1. I held down the insert key and pressed up arrow and then quickly released the keys and repeated this process several times and Jaws read the information for me. I shouldn't have had to do that. 2. I used the Jaws cursor and read the information. What I'm getting at is: Why does Jaws not read the information the way he's supposed to when I return focus back to the Word help window? One thing that I didn't mention before is I pressed alt left arrow to go back a page and then alt right arrow to return to the page talking about Outlook and did another say all and Jaws read it just fine. Why is this happening? I shouldn't have to do insert up arrow several times, or use the Jaws cursor, etc to read a simple piece of information. Any suggestions would be appreciative. 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