The problem is that no matter what they do, someone's not going to like it. So the best they can do is try to determine what most people are going to want, make that the default, and give one the option. They're still going to get complained to no matter what they do, but at least there's an option.
Bruce -- Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: KetchupBoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Dave 'SqueezeBox' Carlson wrote:
...would have been nice if FS had not changed the default mode to something new, at least without letting us know. We waste a lot of time trying to solve problems that are created by well-meaning people who don't consider what dramatic effects might occur from "enhancements" like this. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan MacIsaac To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: RE: Jaws and Microsoft Word. This problem is easily corrected. With Jaws 9, when you copy something from the web, the default is that all formatting from the original web page is retained. Depending on what you paste the selected text into, this may cause a problem. To change this, you need to open the Jaws verbosity options tree view while in your web browser and change the select and copy option. To accomplish this, do the following: 1. Open your web browser. 2. Press the Jaws key plus V to open the new tree view for Jaws options. 3. Press the down arrow key to find the option for select and copy. This is found under the virtual cursor options. You should have to press the down arrow key three or four times to find this option. 4. When you find the select and copy option, you can press the tab key to move to the help window. Use the say all command to read the help information for the select and copy option. 5. Use the shift tab key to move back to the tree view. Press the space bar to change the options for the select and copy option. To make the option work the way it did in earlier versions of Jaws, select the "from virtual cursor" option. 6. Close the Jaws verbosity options window. This change is permanent and remains in effect even if you shutdown Jaws or your computer. The full content option is the default in Jaws 9 - this is what retains all formatting when copying text from a web page. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Alexander Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:12 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word. I'm using the latest version of JAWS 9. When I used to use JAWS 8 and early 9 I would just do a copy & paste from either an e.mail or web page and then paste it into a word document and be able to format the copy in the word document, now with the latest version of JAWS 9 when I copy/cut text from some e.mails and all web pages then paste it into a word document I cannot reformat the text that I copied, the pasted text appears to have cells and sometimes only word on a line and it cannot be changed or formatted. Many times I want to cut/copy a financial newsletter from a website and transfer it to a word document and strip out useless content and cannot modify the document. Someone said a HTML document cannot be edited inside a word document and any help from FS has been useless since I get the following from them: 1. Activate the verbosity dialog "JAWS key+v" 2. Press the letter s until you get to: Select and copy from 3. Press the spacebar until this says virtual cursor and hit enter Now, see if you can copy as you desire to. #2: There is no off/on option for that setting, it is switch to a different setting and the virtual cursor option is the option that was used in previous versions. Of course I tried it with no luck, possibly doing something wrong but their instructions to use the space key does nothing. Frustrated to say the least ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan MacIsaac To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: RE: Jaws and Microsoft Word. What version of Jaws are you using and exactly what is the problem you are having? Ryan -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Alexander Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:55 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word. I too having been pissed off that I cannot copy & paste a web page or e.mail into a word document and edit it as I used to be able to do. Apparently, FS doesn't want to listen since I've sent them several e.mails and to no avail since they think we all should do as they want us to do. So far any assistance I've received from them does not solve the problem, why don't they just work with users? This program is an expensive plus they suck us in for a $120- S/M fee each year, what do we get from that? I'm about to bite the bullet and can JAWS and purchase EYEs and see if that works any better. If you find out how we can copy & paste e.mails or web pages into a Word document with the cells and links and edit it, let me know, otherwise I'm done with donating to FS each year for their S/M ! ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas E. Williamson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word. First, I use ctrl, plus shift, and end to select the text that I want. Then, I use ctrl plus c to copy to the cliff board. Then, I use ctrl plus v to paste in to microsoft Word. However, when I try to read the text, Jaws reads it as a table with some sort of uni-code. I just was not sure if there is something in the setting of Word that I might need to change. (That is, the menus). The purpose of prayer is not to get what we want, but to become what God wants. Regards, Thomas. twilliamson2007@xxxxxxxxxxx This e-mail transmission and any attachments to it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and delete it from your computer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Bron To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word. How are you copying the text? Are you copying it by the page, by the line or a few words at a time? ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas E. Williamson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: Jaws and Microsoft Word. Hello, When I copy text from the internet and try to paste it in to Word, the text comes up in a table, how can I fix that? The purpose of prayer is not to get what we want, but to become what God wants. Regards, Thomas. twilliamson2007@xxxxxxxxxxx This e-mail transmission and any attachments to it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and delete it from your computer.
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