Hi Dorothy, DEC Talk was probably the very best speech synthesizer ever made. In the 70s and 80s it was a piece of hardware which installed inside your computer. Well, that is not quite true because in the 70s we really did not have micros. (LOL) DEC made some so called "dumb" terminals which hooked up to the mainframe just like a computer monitor but these DEC devices had speech and would read whatever was on the screen as well as echo whatever you typed. It was a very major step in the right direction for folks who were computer programmers for sure. Later it was a small speech board which did install inside the micro and then they made an external little device. The newer DEC Talk synthesizers are not nearly what the original was. As an aside I use a TripleTalk synthesizer on my old desktop and I love it. HTH Cy, The Anasazi -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:17 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Different behavior between RealSpeak voices Forgive my ignorance, but what is or was Decktalk? I finally got used to artificial speech but at start eloquence sounded awful, I use better voices for my Ocr. I am trying to recall what I once read on a list here in the Uk about Jaws and speech, the reply and this must be a couple of years ago was that some voices are made up of real human speech in digitised form, the person who asked the question I recall wanted to know why "jaws sounds tired and running out of breath at times, she thought the poor fellow was getting worn out . The techies answer and I cannot remember the spelling was that"the rise and fall of Jaws voice when reading long passages was normal, and he used a word to describe it. I think it was something like Procededgy ,I should have checked it in dictionary first but you may all know what it means Dorothy -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence Sent: 11 August 2010 07:43 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Different behavior between RealSpeak voices Hi, The most responsive sapi 5 voice I have found is e-speak which is, most unfortunately, not available for Jaws for some reason. E-speak is not what you could call natural-sounding. It sounds horrid, actually. None of the natural-sounding voices are going to be responsive because they are too cumbersome since their goal is not responsiveness but, rather, to mimic the quality you get from a human reader as closely as possible. They are used by automated phone systems, talking caller id's, public transportation announcements, and other things. With Jaws, I use the sapi 5 voices during say all when I am reading a book or a long webpage or something like that. To me, the best balance between clarity and responsiveness is still and probably always will be Dec talk. If I remember correctly, Jaws does support all flavors of it. It doesn't sound human but the pronunciation is just amazing. Acclaimed physicist Steven Hawking used it as his voice for communicating with people for years and years. You can still hear it on the weather channel from time to time too. Always get a kick out of that one. The different voices sound more pleasant too. No shivers, quavers, or shakes like you get in the natural sounding voices. Very smooth and very clear right up to several hundred words per minute. Do that with Samantha and she sounds like a cross between a goat and an opera singer being violently shaken. Incidentally, my personal favorite sapi 5 voice is Karen. An absolute pleasure to listen to and the accent falls very nicely on the ear. After that, I'd say I like Tom the best trailed by Lee as the third. Personal preference. Alex M On 8/10/10, Yadiel <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yes! Although I prefer jill. "She" sounds... well... in lack of a better > phrase, more sweet and plecent to the ear. Although, not as responsive. In > fact, I yet haven't found a voice that is as responsive as I would like. > Real Speak Solo direct or sappy 5, I still can't find a good sounding > responsive voice. That is why I use eloquence for most of my task including > web surfing and use the real speak and sappy 5s for reading very long > documents. > > > Yadiel > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Dale E. Heltzer" <deheltzer@xxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:47 PM > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Different behavior between RealSpeak voices > >> Some days ago I posted about how RealSpeak Daniel doesn't always >> pronounce words the way they're written. >> I've been using Samantha, and have noticed no such shortcomings - and >> "she" is much more responsive than Daniel. >> >> Anyone else notice this? >> --- >> Dale E. 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