Re: Different behavior between RealSpeak voices
- From: Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:08:13 -0500
Taht's funny. I had a student in my training class once who thought
the same. Sighted fellow. Wondered why on earth I'd use Eloquence
Reed when I could have Karen for everything. Tried to persuade me to
type in all sorts of ... ahem ... naughty things just to hear her say
them. Only gave in once. It was ... most interesting. *grin*
Alex
On 8/11/10, Tom Lange <trlange@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
> I was a Dectalk user for years, and am a little amused that the software
> version of Dectalk these days sounds vaguely Indian, not so much in the
> pronunciation but the voice's lilt.
>
> As for Karen, Tom and Lee, I like all three, but I wouldn't use them for
> anything other than a long say-all. One of my students recently joked that
> he now has a thing about Karen and wants to leave his wife and fly down to
> Australia to find her.
> Tom
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Different behavior between RealSpeak voices
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The most responsive sapi 5 voice I have found is e-speak which is,
>> most unfortunately, not available for Jaws for some reason. E-speak
>> is not what you could call natural-sounding. It sounds horrid,
>> actually. None of the natural-sounding voices are going to be
>> responsive because they are too cumbersome since their goal is not
>> responsiveness but, rather, to mimic the quality you get from a human
>> reader as closely as possible. They are used by automated phone
>> systems, talking caller id's, public transportation announcements, and
>> other things. With Jaws, I use the sapi 5 voices during say all when I
>> am reading a book or a long webpage or something like that. To me,
>> the best balance between clarity and responsiveness is still and
>> probably always will be Dec talk. If I remember correctly, Jaws does
>> support all flavors of it. It doesn't sound human but the
>> pronunciation is just amazing. Acclaimed physicist Steven Hawking
>> used it as his voice for communicating with people for years and
>> years. You can still hear it on the weather channel from time to time
>> too. Always get a kick out of that one. The different voices sound
>> more pleasant too. No shivers, quavers, or shakes like you get in the
>> natural sounding voices. Very smooth and very clear right up to
>> several hundred words per minute. Do that with Samantha and she
>> sounds like a cross between a goat and an opera singer being violently
>> shaken.
>>
>> Incidentally, my personal favorite sapi 5 voice is Karen. An absolute
>> pleasure to listen to and the accent falls very nicely on the ear.
>> After that, I'd say I like Tom the best trailed by Lee as the third.
>> Personal preference.
>>
>> Alex M
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/10/10, Yadiel <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Yes! Although I prefer jill. "She" sounds... well... in lack of a better
>>> phrase, more sweet and plecent to the ear. Although, not as responsive.
>>> In
>>> fact, I yet haven't found a voice that is as responsive as I would like.
>>> Real Speak Solo direct or sappy 5, I still can't find a good sounding
>>> responsive voice. That is why I use eloquence for most of my task
>>> including
>>> web surfing and use the real speak and sappy 5s for reading very long
>>> documents.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yadiel
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Dale E. Heltzer" <deheltzer@xxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:47 PM
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Different behavior between RealSpeak voices
>>>
>>>> Some days ago I posted about how RealSpeak Daniel doesn't always
>>>> pronounce words the way they're written.
>>>> I've been using Samantha, and have noticed no such shortcomings - and
>>>> "she" is much more responsive than Daniel.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else notice this?
>>>> ---
>>>> Dale E. Heltzer
>>>> deheltzer@xxxxxxx
>>>>
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