[jawsscripts] Re: pesky damn combo boxes, revisited

  • From: Doug Lee <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:05:57 -0400

One thing baffles me:  If you have no MSAA info for the combo box and
its items, how are you getting the list of items in the box now?
GetListOfObjects, or something else?

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 02:44:07PM -0700, Jackie McBride wrote:
Roy, thanks for the tip, but, no, that's not the difficulty--I did
that. When I said this was 1 of the most MSAA *unaware* apps I've
seen, I was not kidding, folks--I was serious as a heart attack.
Having said all that though, I will never rule out the possibility
that my ineptitude could & probably does play a role, but I actually
did the control f thing right.

On 4/30/08, Roy Nickelson <roylee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I haven't been followig this thread but as a user it sounds like you forgot
> to press ctrl+f in step 3.  make sure that the pc cursor is on the combo box
> before following chad's instructions.
> Roy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:22 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: pesky damn combo boxes, revisited
>
>
> Chad:
>
> Ok, been there, done that, & the only message I get is "object not
> found", no matter what I do.
>
> So, guess it's time for plan b, huh? Aint that just a barrel of fun!
>
> On 4/30/08, chad.foster@xxxxxxxxxx <chad.foster@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Try Doug Lee's BX utility found at:
> >
> > http://users.visi.com/~dgl/bx/
> >
> > Once you install it, you want to use MSAA mode by doing the following:
> >
> > 1. Turn on BX by pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR
> > 2. Switch to MSAA mode by pressing apostrophe (') followed by M (M)
> > 3. Place BX on the focused object by pressing CTRL+F
> > 4. Arrow up, down, right, and left to explore the object hierarchy
> > 5. If you find a relationship of your combo box items, then it can be
> > scripted using MSAA
> > 6. If you are unable to find your combo box items, then we'll have to
> > think of plan B
> >
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Chad
> >
> >
> > On 4/30/08, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Chad, here seems to be the problem: the parent window of the combo box
> > > in question contains not only objects from the combo box being worked
> > > with, but others as well, & objects often have identical names. So
> > > trying to sort which object belongs to which combo box is gonna be a
> > > well, uh, b-word. Maybe I will be able to figure out which objects go
> > > w/which boxes, but the problem is that there are 4 combo boxes--1 for
> > > soft synths, which is actually easy to figure out where they belong, &
> > > 3 identical boxes that contain names of effects which can be chained
> > > together. These obviously have all identical names, so trying to
> > > figure out which names go with which is gonna get interesting, but
> > > I'll play w/it some more. Thanks for the suggestion.
> > >
> > > On 4/30/08, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > In short, James, no, but it'd sure make my life easier if I could.
> > > > Chad, let me look a little closer at what u r saying here. This is 1
> > > > of the most MSAA *unaware* apps I've worked w/in a long, long time &
> > > > also poorly written, e.g., combo boxes & radio buttons have a couple
> > > > different window classes (e.g., comboLBox & TComboBox) even within the
> > > > same program! I really think part of what's happened here is that
> > > > they've continued to add features over the years but never revised the
> > > > code to bring it into sync w/the new tools they're using, etc. Having
> > > > said all that, I'm not altogether certain I'm intelligent enough to
> > > > know how to do what u just said were the app the most well-written in
> > > > the world, Chad. But I'll look at it some more & see if maybe I can't
> > > > muddle thru.  I really do wish I could find some decent materials &
> > > > docs regarding objects, MSAA, UI automation--whatever & all of the
> > > > above. Any suggestions from any1 welcome. I have downloaded both the
> > > > windows & MSAA sdk, but it seems as though they kind of assume u
> > > > already know what you're doing--not a good assumption when it comes to
> > > > lil oal me, that's a certainty.
> > > >
> > > > Frustrated.
> > > >
> > > > On 4/30/08, James Dietz <James.Dietz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Can't you just use alt+down to "open" the combo, choose item, then
> > > > > alt
> > > > > +up to "select" it?
> > > > >
> > > > > James
> > > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Jackie McBride wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, yall, as I think I explained in a previous post, I've got a
> > combo
> > > > > > box which, when the arrow keys are pressed, not only give the item
> > > > > > focus but select it as well. The problem here is that, when one
> > > > > > presses a key, if the synth is not working or whatever, u get a
> > dialog
> > > > > > box to that effect & then u gotta go back to the combo & select
> > > > > > something else. Real pita. So I tried collecting the objects
> > contained
> > > > > > in the combo box into a list with dlgSelectItemInList. Works fine
> > > > > > until the item is selected, e.g., I'm havin trouble matching the
> > item
> > > > > > selected in the list to the item selected in the combo box. I was
> > > > > > playin around w/a whole lot of stuff--SetCurrentItem, (works
> > > > > > intermittently but does not select), send message (doesn't seem to
> > > > > > work at all though perhaps I'm doing that wrong), click object by
> > name
> > > > > > (says it works but doesn't), just trying to click it (object can't
> > be
> > > > > > found).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any1 got any brilliant ideas? Appreciate anything any1 has to
> > > > > > offer.
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