thanks. I did find the names of the buttons using MSAA. sincewriting yesterday I found out keystrokes are built in to move between chapters but they use the arrow keys. Can I write scriptswith typekey ("leftarrow") to use the built in keystrokes? I like the object list since there are other icons in the toolbar that are similar to the ones I was looking at. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:45 AM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > One tool might be GetListOfObjects. You can try this by moving to the > window with JawsCursor, then activating HomeRow, then hit Alt+F9. This will > give you an idea of how that puppy works. > If you tab to one of the controls, then activate HomeRow, and use Alt+F9, > you might get the same results. If not, hit Shift+F2 to step up the window > chain, hitting Alt+F9 after each Shift+F2. > If that works, you may be able to use the GetListOfObjects to step through > your window's hierarchy. > > Thanks, > Dennis Brown > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:09 PM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > > > > or, alternatively, if this all fails, use HotSpotClicker DEan to bring > > quick > > and ready access to these Same ICon tools! > > > > http://www.hotSpoitClicker.org > > > > after all, that was the initial driving force behind my intention to have > > it > > developed to what it is today! and jim's done just an amazing job with > > this > > puppy! in my view anywayz. > > one day, whenever I get around to it, 2 years and it hasn't happened yet, > > grrr, I am going to build an audio and textual quickstart for non-scripter > > newbies, which doesn't exist yet, at least, not one by me, Jim and Vic > > have > > both done versions of one though I believe, > > but, man in my view, hsc would get you out of trouble heaps easiest, if > > you > > have no MSAA object separation for the icons as dennis has exhorted you to > > check for below. > > How continually reliable this solution would be, would in part depend on: > > A.) whether each graphical icon has it's own separate window that it > > exists > > in; and whether each of these tools/windows thus has it's own trackable > > attributes, like control ID, or WindowName etc, > > > > or, > > B. whether all the tools Live inside their own one ToolBar window, where > > they cannot be dragged around or moved independently; such that if one > > moves, they all move. in which case you'd set your hotSpot positioning > > mode > > to Current window, rather than it's default of application window, for > > maximum reliability, if they did move often. > > or, > > C. how often they might get moved around by other things happening in the > > program, based on their relative positions to the application window > > boarder. if they don't move at all, you could just safely choose, > > "application window," as the positioning mode/relative boarder against > > which > > the hotspots were measured. > > you'd of course define each as a separately labellable hotSpot, once you > > knew the purpose of each same Icon tool. BTW this is very, very common in > > many applications these days. which is why hsc is sooooo groovy! > > > > > > BTW dennis, for my own knowledge, I'd be very keen to have you resite the > > next part of this story for us all, as to how one might go about scripting > > this kind of sitch up from the back end, as it were, if these same icons > > end > > up Having, separately determineable MSAA names/attributes? some example > > code > > of how one might best suss that? Because, > > without absolutely checking on this to be sure, but although hsc I believe > > does monitor the ObjectName as part of it's snapshot when defining each > > hotspot, > > I am unsure as to it's present capabilities > > regarding direct MSAA object attributes as settable criteria for > > trackability, when activating the spot. > > and, obviously, it'd be rather nice to have this option as an additional > > built in location criteria tool. > > plus, I'd very much like to know how one might go about scripting up > > manually, access to this kind of sitch anyway. i.e. code to crawl through > > current window looking for the uniquely determined MSAA object attribute > > etc. > > feel like spilling on that one? > > I'm sure you do. > > he he. > > > > thanks. > > > > geoff c. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:22 AM > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > > > > > >> Do the graphics have MSAA data? Land on one and go into HomeRow with > >> Insert+Space, then cycle through F10, hitting F9 at each item through the > >> cycle. See if you get any name, value, description, etc. > >> Also, while in HomeRow, cycle through F3, hitting F1 at each item and see > > if > >> it has a unique control ID. > >> Toggle off homeRow with another Insert+Space. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Dennis Brown > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:16 PM > >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > >> > >> > >> When I tried turning graphics mode on all icons in the program became > >> graphic 0. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> >From: "Huskins, Wayne" <Wayne.Huskins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >Sent: Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM > >> >To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > >> > > >> >Have you tried turning graphics mode on in configuration manager/set > >> >options/graphics and symbols? > >> > > >> >W > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >> >Sent: January 9, 2008 16:23 > >> >To: JAWS Scripts > >> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Same Icon > >> > > >> >I have QuickVerse 2006 bible software. Some of the items in the toolbar > >> >have the same icon so you can't distinguish between them. Some of these > >> >are to go to the previous chapter, section, next chapter, section. > >> >Depending on the text all of the icons do not appear and if they are > >> >labled all get the same label. so then you don't know just what the > >> >icons do. Are there any suggestions as to how to remedy this?I have > >> >tried resetting the screen resolution on my PC but that doesn't change > >> >the graphic number for these four icons. They all remain the same and > >> >with the same graphic number. > >> > > >> >Thanks, > >> >Dean > >> > > >> >I personally know someone who literally is older than dirt. > >> >If you would like to meet him, please write to me or join us on the > >> >Masters List: > >> >masterslist-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx > >> > > >> > > >> >__________ > >> >View the list's information and change your settings at > >> >//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > >> > > >> >__________ > >> >View the list's information and change your settings at > >> >//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > >> > > >> > >> __________ > >> View the list's information and change your settings at > >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > >> > >> > >> __________ > >> View the list's information and change your settings at > >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > >> > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > > > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > __________� View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts