[jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:53:02 +1100
right dennis. thanks very much for this eh. I will investigate this. thanks
for responding.
I certainly hadn't heard of this before.
thanks again.
geoff c.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:45 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> One tool might be GetListOfObjects. You can try this by moving to the
> window with JawsCursor, then activating HomeRow, then hit Alt+F9. This
will
> give you an idea of how that puppy works.
> If you tab to one of the controls, then activate HomeRow, and use Alt+F9,
> you might get the same results. If not, hit Shift+F2 to step up the
window
> chain, hitting Alt+F9 after each Shift+F2.
> If that works, you may be able to use the GetListOfObjects to step through
> your window's hierarchy.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis Brown
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:09 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
>
>
> > or, alternatively, if this all fails, use HotSpotClicker DEan to bring
> > quick
> > and ready access to these Same ICon tools!
> >
> > http://www.hotSpoitClicker.org
> >
> > after all, that was the initial driving force behind my intention to
have
> > it
> > developed to what it is today! and jim's done just an amazing job with
> > this
> > puppy! in my view anywayz.
> > one day, whenever I get around to it, 2 years and it hasn't happened
yet,
> > grrr, I am going to build an audio and textual quickstart for
non-scripter
> > newbies, which doesn't exist yet, at least, not one by me, Jim and Vic
> > have
> > both done versions of one though I believe,
> > but, man in my view, hsc would get you out of trouble heaps easiest, if
> > you
> > have no MSAA object separation for the icons as dennis has exhorted you
to
> > check for below.
> > How continually reliable this solution would be, would in part depend
on:
> > A.) whether each graphical icon has it's own separate window that it
> > exists
> > in; and whether each of these tools/windows thus has it's own trackable
> > attributes, like control ID, or WindowName etc,
> >
> > or,
> > B. whether all the tools Live inside their own one ToolBar window, where
> > they cannot be dragged around or moved independently; such that if one
> > moves, they all move. in which case you'd set your hotSpot positioning
> > mode
> > to Current window, rather than it's default of application window, for
> > maximum reliability, if they did move often.
> > or,
> > C. how often they might get moved around by other things happening in
the
> > program, based on their relative positions to the application window
> > boarder. if they don't move at all, you could just safely choose,
> > "application window," as the positioning mode/relative boarder against
> > which
> > the hotspots were measured.
> > you'd of course define each as a separately labellable hotSpot, once you
> > knew the purpose of each same Icon tool. BTW this is very, very common
in
> > many applications these days. which is why hsc is sooooo groovy!
> >
> >
> > BTW dennis, for my own knowledge, I'd be very keen to have you resite
the
> > next part of this story for us all, as to how one might go about
scripting
> > this kind of sitch up from the back end, as it were, if these same icons
> > end
> > up Having, separately determineable MSAA names/attributes? some example
> > code
> > of how one might best suss that? Because,
> > without absolutely checking on this to be sure, but although hsc I
believe
> > does monitor the ObjectName as part of it's snapshot when defining each
> > hotspot,
> > I am unsure as to it's present capabilities
> > regarding direct MSAA object attributes as settable criteria for
> > trackability, when activating the spot.
> > and, obviously, it'd be rather nice to have this option as an additional
> > built in location criteria tool.
> > plus, I'd very much like to know how one might go about scripting up
> > manually, access to this kind of sitch anyway. i.e. code to crawl
through
> > current window looking for the uniquely determined MSAA object attribute
> > etc.
> > feel like spilling on that one?
> > I'm sure you do.
> > he he.
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > geoff c.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:22 AM
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> >
> >
> >> Do the graphics have MSAA data? Land on one and go into HomeRow with
> >> Insert+Space, then cycle through F10, hitting F9 at each item through
the
> >> cycle. See if you get any name, value, description, etc.
> >> Also, while in HomeRow, cycle through F3, hitting F1 at each item and
see
> > if
> >> it has a unique control ID.
> >> Toggle off homeRow with another Insert+Space.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Dennis Brown
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:16 PM
> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> >>
> >>
> >> When I tried turning graphics mode on all icons in the program became
> >> graphic 0.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: "Huskins, Wayne" <Wayne.Huskins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >Sent: Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM
> >> >To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> >> >
> >> >Have you tried turning graphics mode on in configuration manager/set
> >> >options/graphics and symbols?
> >> >
> >> >W
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> >Sent: January 9, 2008 16:23
> >> >To: JAWS Scripts
> >> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Same Icon
> >> >
> >> >I have QuickVerse 2006 bible software. Some of the items in the
toolbar
> >> >have the same icon so you can't distinguish between them. Some of
these
> >> >are to go to the previous chapter, section, next chapter, section.
> >> >Depending on the text all of the icons do not appear and if they are
> >> >labled all get the same label. so then you don't know just what the
> >> >icons do. Are there any suggestions as to how to remedy this?I have
> >> >tried resetting the screen resolution on my PC but that doesn't change
> >> >the graphic number for these four icons. They all remain the same and
> >> >with the same graphic number.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >Dean
> >> >
> >> >I personally know someone who literally is older than dirt.
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