[jaws-uk] Re: Something very anoying in the new update

  • From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:22:19 +0100

Unfortunately I'm not a customer of theres so I cannot test this myself.  I 
take it that if you go back to 7.0 things work out OK, and this is not a 
coincidence that perhaps the bank have change their site as well?
Regards.

Tristram Llewellyn
Sight and Sound Technology
Technical Support
www.sightandsound.co.uk

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David 
  To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:15 PM
  Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Something very anoying in the new update


  The bank is the National Westminster and the website I use is
  www.nwolb.co.uk

  I tested it again five minutes ago and there is quite definitely a problem.
  I have used this site regularly for about a year and had no problems until
  Jaws 7.10.

  I also noticed today that having entered my personal number on the first
  page and pressed "next" it then asked me for my personal number again but,
  in fact, it should have been part of my pin number.  Anyway, I did a read
  line and it asked me to enter the first character of my pin number which I
  did.  It should then have taken me to the next field to enter another pin
  number but instead it asked me for the second character of my password.  I
  knew this was not right but entered it as requested and it immediately shot
  me to the top of the page.

  I don't like to mess around with this sort of site for long in case you end
  up having to re-register.  I hope you understand all that.

  Regards

  -----Original Message-----
  From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn
  Sent: 26 June 2006 10:47
  To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Something very anoying in the new update


  Obviously not interested in your bank details but which bank is that you are
  having this problem with, perhaps someone else has the same bank and could
  compare notes with a view to finding what the problem is and then possible
  resolution.
  Regards.

  Tristram Llewellyn
  Sight and Sound Technology
  Technical Support
  www.sightandsound.co.uk

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: David 
    To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:23 AM
    Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Something very anoying in the new update


    Hi,
    I have also had trouble with form fields with 7.10.  Not quite the same as
    you I think.  What I am finding on a particular banking website is
  entering
    password digits in their individual fields.  Normally you automatically
    start in field 1, then field 2 etc. but with 7.10 it seems to land on any
    random field and it doesn't reliably tell you wich.  When I use this
  website
    now I go back to 7.0.

    I have also noticed that some of the settings don't seem to have taken
    effect with the Merge Utilities function.  I might try running it again.

    I had trouble with Google some time ago when it kept on interrupting
    everytime I went to a new field in a form.  I found the problem in
    Add/Remove Software.  Forgotten what it was called but had "google" in it.
    Taking it out sorted it.

    Things are not looking good I think with Jaws 7.1 at the moment but it is
    still a Beta version so can't moan I suppose.

    Regards

    David
    -----Original Message-----
    From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
    Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson
    Sent: 25 June 2006 23:01
    To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [jaws-uk] Something very anoying in the new update


    Hi,

    I am finding this new update a bit difficult to get used to.  The main
    reason is that on a web form, if you are arrowing through the form, Jaws
    before 7.10 read out the relevant field, then the edit box etc for you
    to put the data into.  However, what I am now finding is that Jaws is
    reading some sort of attribute on the form entry fields, in addition to
    the data which is visible in the browser window, in effect reading the
    data out twice for each arrow up/down.  It is not therefore easy to
    distinguish when you come to the edit field in a form, you have to use
    different navigation commands to get you to the next edit field etc.

    One clear example on this is at http://www.google.com, where I usually
    quickly arrow down until I hear the words "edit", however, now I hear
    the words "google search" read out twice, once for the text shown above
    the form field, and once again on the form field itself.

    Is there any way to turn this feature off, so that I can hear the
    description of the field by pressing a key or something?

    Also, I realise that Brian has done a script for this, but I find
    Outlook a bit annoying when you continually hear the same message read
    out if you come to the bottom of the list.  If you are viewing a folder
    with the new messages coming at the bottom, you don't know when you
    reach the bottom of the list easily, because you continually hear the
    last message in the list, which makes it seem like that person wrote
    loads of messages.

    Thanks.
    Andrew.
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