Unfortunately I'm not a customer of theres so I cannot test this myself. I take it that if you go back to 7.0 things work out OK, and this is not a coincidence that perhaps the bank have change their site as well? Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: David To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Something very anoying in the new update The bank is the National Westminster and the website I use is www.nwolb.co.uk I tested it again five minutes ago and there is quite definitely a problem. I have used this site regularly for about a year and had no problems until Jaws 7.10. I also noticed today that having entered my personal number on the first page and pressed "next" it then asked me for my personal number again but, in fact, it should have been part of my pin number. Anyway, I did a read line and it asked me to enter the first character of my pin number which I did. It should then have taken me to the next field to enter another pin number but instead it asked me for the second character of my password. I knew this was not right but entered it as requested and it immediately shot me to the top of the page. I don't like to mess around with this sort of site for long in case you end up having to re-register. I hope you understand all that. Regards -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn Sent: 26 June 2006 10:47 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Something very anoying in the new update Obviously not interested in your bank details but which bank is that you are having this problem with, perhaps someone else has the same bank and could compare notes with a view to finding what the problem is and then possible resolution. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: David To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Something very anoying in the new update Hi, I have also had trouble with form fields with 7.10. Not quite the same as you I think. What I am finding on a particular banking website is entering password digits in their individual fields. Normally you automatically start in field 1, then field 2 etc. but with 7.10 it seems to land on any random field and it doesn't reliably tell you wich. When I use this website now I go back to 7.0. I have also noticed that some of the settings don't seem to have taken effect with the Merge Utilities function. I might try running it again. I had trouble with Google some time ago when it kept on interrupting everytime I went to a new field in a form. I found the problem in Add/Remove Software. Forgotten what it was called but had "google" in it. Taking it out sorted it. Things are not looking good I think with Jaws 7.1 at the moment but it is still a Beta version so can't moan I suppose. Regards David -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 25 June 2006 23:01 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Something very anoying in the new update Hi, I am finding this new update a bit difficult to get used to. The main reason is that on a web form, if you are arrowing through the form, Jaws before 7.10 read out the relevant field, then the edit box etc for you to put the data into. However, what I am now finding is that Jaws is reading some sort of attribute on the form entry fields, in addition to the data which is visible in the browser window, in effect reading the data out twice for each arrow up/down. It is not therefore easy to distinguish when you come to the edit field in a form, you have to use different navigation commands to get you to the next edit field etc. One clear example on this is at http://www.google.com, where I usually quickly arrow down until I hear the words "edit", however, now I hear the words "google search" read out twice, once for the text shown above the form field, and once again on the form field itself. Is there any way to turn this feature off, so that I can hear the description of the field by pressing a key or something? Also, I realise that Brian has done a script for this, but I find Outlook a bit annoying when you continually hear the same message read out if you come to the bottom of the list. If you are viewing a folder with the new messages coming at the bottom, you don't know when you reach the bottom of the list easily, because you continually hear the last message in the list, which makes it seem like that person wrote loads of messages. 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