[isapros] Re: OT: Upgrading Tablets to Vista
- From: "Gerald G. Young" <g.young@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 11:42:47 -0400
It's been my experience that I can disable any feature in Ultimate that
I find I don't need and/or has a large impact on the performance of my
system. That being said, the recommended system requirements for
Business and Ultimate are the same
(http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/systemr
equirements.mspx?wt_svl=10042VHa1&mg_id=10042VHb1). If the system can
run fine with Business, it should run fine with Ultimate.
I approach it from a standpoint of having the features there that I
think I *might* want now, rather than waiting for later. When Windows
XP came out, I got burned with Windows XP Home because it couldn't be
added to a domain and a lot of security features weren't available
(e.g., NTFS File Permissions weren't exposed), not to mention a lot of
the command-line tools I use weren't available.
With regards to performance, though, the single biggest hit I took with
Windows XP was when I had User Switching enabled (the ability to switch
between users without logging off). Once I disabled that - since I
didn't use it and didn't like the security ramifications of it - I
noticed a significant improvement in performance. I think Ultimate has
this enabled by default but I haven't gotten around to disabling it if
it is. I am not sure if Business would enable this feature by default.
Ultimately, Vista is still too new to the consumer base - and most
corporate bases, too - to have any real practical insight into
performance issues with personal use; most people who use it now
probably have higher end systems and so don't notice much. This is the
primary reason I took the plunge; I wanted hands-on experience with the
product. So far, I like what I've seen and Aero just rocks, providing
you have a powerful enough video card, although I wish Microsoft would
have taken the hint and finally added virtual desktops to their OS along
the lines of how it works on the Enlightenment desktop GUI for *nix
platforms.
Cordially yours,
Jerry G. Young II
Application Engineer, Platform Engineering and Architecture
NTT America, an NTT Communications Company
22451 Shaw Rd.
Sterling, VA 20166
Office: 571-434-1319
Fax: 703-333-6749
Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx
From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:08 AM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: OT: Upgrading Tablets to Vista
No performance problems for ultimate? I've got ultimate on my business
unit here, and am about to load it on my HP Digital Media Center (the
nice rack system), but am concerned with performance on the Origami.
I'm happy to put ultimate on it, but just don't want to screw myself on
performance. That being said, it would be nice to be able to play my
recorded stuff from the HP on the Origami directly (without having to
burn to DVD).
No big performance difference between Biz and Ultimate?
thx (and apologies to those bothered by the OT)
t
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald G. Young <mailto:g.young@xxxxxxxx>
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:47 AM
Subject: [isapros] Re: OT: Upgrading Tablets to Vista
If it was me, I'd load Ultimate, which is what I did on my home
system. J
You aren't going to be able to use Home Basic, though, since
that version doesn't support Tablet PCs. Business is probably better
for you than Home Premium, too, because of the support tools you have
access to in Business, not to mention only Business, Enterprise, and
Ultimate versions can be added to a domain.
For a high level overview of the differences in version, check
out the following link:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/choose.m
spx?wt_svl=10033VHa2&mg_id=10033VHb2
Cordially yours,
Jerry G. Young II
Application Engineer, Platform Engineering and Architecture
NTT America, an NTT Communications Company
22451 Shaw Rd.
Sterling, VA 20166
Office: 571-434-1319
Fax: 703-333-6749
Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx
From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:22 AM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: OT: Upgrading Tablets to Vista
I'll give that a shot... I was going to have to reload the
original in the first place, so I might as well do my due diligence and
see what happens.
Last Q then- what edition would you load? Home Basic? It's the
Origami- the business edition index is 1 at the moment - any insight on
performance differences between Home Basic and Business, or just price?
t
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald G. Young <mailto:g.young@xxxxxxxx>
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:59 AM
Subject: [isapros] Re: OT: Upgrading Tablets to Vista
Well...
If nothing else, you can always attempt a clean install.
I agree with Jim about in-place upgrades and never do them because I
don't want to bring over all the legacy stuff that has only ever seemed
to make a mess of the new OS once it was installed.
There is a bit of a gotcha with Vista, though. If you
purchased an "Upgrade" package and perform a clean install (setup needs
to be run keyless), when you activate the OS and enter the Upgrade
product key, you get a message stating that the software you purchased
can only be used to perform an in-place upgrade, even though the package
and documentation inside the package indicate otherwise.
I had to call PSS to get around that.
But, it may be that natively (meaning clean install)
Vista does a better job with the hardware than it does when you slap it
down on top of another OS.
Would be worth testing, at least, providing you have the
time. ;)
Cordially yours,
Jerry G. Young II
Application Engineer, Platform Engineering and
Architecture
NTT America, an NTT Communications Company
22451 Shaw Rd.
Sterling, VA 20166
Office: 571-434-1319
Fax: 703-333-6749
Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx
From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:32 AM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: OT: Upgrading Tablets to Vista
I did an upgrade, which is the "recommended" procedure,
particularly for software dependant functionality requirements... In
device manager, everything shows as working, however, nothing "works."
The touch screen is completely disabled, yet it shows up fine in device
manager. The upgrade advisor runs automatically-- the first thing it
did was say that I had to uninstall Norton AV (which came with the
system). After doing that and restarting (a lengthy process, actually)
the advisor came up with "there may be issues, but nothing that will
keep you from upgrading."
However, I've found some cached docs in Google on MSFT
that talk about setting up the input devices and such (after touting how
much easier and more enabled tablet PC's are after installing Vista).
It was smart enough to tell me that I couldn't upgrade
from XP Tablet to Home Basic, so you would think that it would know if
there were issues with going to Business with Tablet.
But I'll see if there is anything I can do in Control
Panel to get the touch screen working- but I have to attach an external
keyboard/mouse to do that (fortunately I've got one with my Origami).
Thanks for the help- I'll see if what pans out.
t
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald G. Young <mailto:g.young@xxxxxxxx>
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:23 AM
Subject: [isapros] Re: OT: Upgrading Tablets to
Vista
T,
Did you perform a clean install or did you
perform an in-place upgrade?
If you open up Device Manager, are there any
devices that appear either as disabled, driver unknown, or not working?
Did you check help to see if you needed to
"enable" the tablet features?
Did you run the Upgrade Advisor against the
system to see if it detected any issues, potential or otherwise?
Just a few questions that came to mind.
Jerry
From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:19 PM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] OT: Upgrading Tablets to
Vista
Anyone had any luck upgrading XP Tablet system
to Vista? I've got the Samsung NP-Q1 which was running XP Tablet 2005.
I actually gave several to my girlfriend because I wanted to be the only
guy to give her multiple Origami's. yuk yuk. Anyway, after upgrading
to Vista Business (you can't upgrade to home) it worked, but none of the
table functions work at all. I thought Vista was supposed to handle all
that for me, but it just left me with a useless tablet in my hands.
Any insight would be great. No, there is
nothing for Vista on the Samsung site. Thx
t
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