[isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
- From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:40:18 -0700
Supposedly they provide for large-scale SSL VPN solutions with offloaded SSL
processing. The dude at RSA must have known something about the MSFT
acquisition, as when I asked about the Whale box working with ISA, he said
something about how soon they would be "working very close together" or
something like that. We're talking on the lines of thousands of
simultaneous clients and such, according to dude.
t
On 5/19/06 7:06 AM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to
all:
> You got a good point there.
>
> I've never seen a Whale box. I wonder what kind of functionity they
> provide?
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> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org
> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jason Jones
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:56 AM
>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
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>> Maybe I should have said "unmanaged" e.g. dynamic. I know the zero
>> footprint clients are actually dynamic installs, but people still seem
>> to want this type.
>>
>> Most customers see IPsec/PPTP as "managed" clients that need
>> installing
>> or maintaining by IT.
>>
>> I am not saying these views are right, just putting forward
>> the kind of
>> arguments I face from customers...
>>
>> I am sure if people were happy with "RPC over HTTP VPN's"
>> then Microsoft
>> wouldn't have bought Whale ;-)
>>
>> Jason Jones | Silversands Limited | T: 01202 360489 | M:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>> Sent: 19 May 2006 14:48
>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
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>> No such-a animule.
>>
>> Even the SSL VPN still installs an AX control, Java applet or
>> some such
>> other "no footprint" package.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Jason Jones
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:30 AM
>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
>>
>> Like most people, they want zero client footprint/install.
>> That and host
>> based checking...
>>
>> ISA can get close with a CMAK prepared VPN client and something like
>> VPN-Q, but not quite the same...
>>
>>
>> Jason Jones | Silversands Limited | T: 01202 360489 | M:
>> 07971 500312 |
>> F: 01202 360900 | E: jason.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:jason.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> ________________________________
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>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
>> Sent: 19 May 2006 12:41
>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
>>
>>
>> Hi Jason,
>> Customers always ask about SSL VPN, but most of them don't even need
>> one. Where there specific features they wanted that ISA
>> couldn't provide
>> them?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Tom
>>
>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>> Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP -- ISA
>> Firewalls
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>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jason Jones
>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:47 AM
>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
>>
>>
>> Looks at Whales website, it looks like the already offer a lot
>> of similar features to ISA, so it should be interesting to see how MS
>> merge the SSL VPN and additional application filters...
>>
>> We have recently been quoting for a large enterprise solution
>> and the lack of ISA SSL VPN was a big downer for the customer :-(
>>
>>
>> Jason Jones | Silversands Limited | T: 01202 360489 | M: 07971
>> 500312 | F: 01202 360900 | E: jason.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:jason.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
>> Sent: 19 May 2006 03:27
>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isapros] MS Buys Whale
>>
>>
>> You know, I thought this would have been a big deal. But no one
>> seems to be talking about it.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>> Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7>
>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
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