[isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:06:14 -0500
You got a good point there.
I've never seen a Whale box. I wonder what kind of functionity they
provide?
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jason Jones
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:56 AM
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> Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
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> Maybe I should have said "unmanaged" e.g. dynamic. I know the zero
> footprint clients are actually dynamic installs, but people still seem
> to want this type.
>
> Most customers see IPsec/PPTP as "managed" clients that need
> installing
> or maintaining by IT.
>
> I am not saying these views are right, just putting forward
> the kind of
> arguments I face from customers...
>
> I am sure if people were happy with "RPC over HTTP VPN's"
> then Microsoft
> wouldn't have bought Whale ;-)
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> Sent: 19 May 2006 14:48
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> Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
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> No such-a animule.
>
> Even the SSL VPN still installs an AX control, Java applet or
> some such
> other "no footprint" package.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Jason Jones
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:30 AM
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> Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
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> Like most people, they want zero client footprint/install.
> That and host
> based checking...
>
> ISA can get close with a CMAK prepared VPN client and something like
> VPN-Q, but not quite the same...
>
>
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> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> Sent: 19 May 2006 12:41
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> Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
>
>
> Hi Jason,
> Customers always ask about SSL VPN, but most of them don't even need
> one. Where there specific features they wanted that ISA
> couldn't provide
> them?
>
> Thanks!
> Tom
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jason Jones
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:47 AM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale
>
>
> Looks at Whales website, it looks like the already offer a lot
> of similar features to ISA, so it should be interesting to see how MS
> merge the SSL VPN and additional application filters...
>
> We have recently been quoting for a large enterprise solution
> and the lack of ISA SSL VPN was a big downer for the customer :-(
>
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> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Sent: 19 May 2006 03:27
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> Subject: [isapros] MS Buys Whale
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>
> You know, I thought this would have been a big deal. But no one
> seems to be talking about it.
>
> Tom
>
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