Like most people, they want zero client footprint/install. That and host based checking... ISA can get close with a CMAK prepared VPN client and something like VPN-Q, but not quite the same... Jason Jones | Silversands Limited | T: 01202 360489 | M: 07971 500312 | F: 01202 360900 | E: jason.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jason.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________ From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder Sent: 19 May 2006 12:41 To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale Hi Jason, Customers always ask about SSL VPN, but most of them don't even need one. Where there specific features they wanted that ISA couldn't provide them? Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP -- ISA Firewalls ________________________________ From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jason Jones Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 2:47 AM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: MS Buys Whale Looks at Whales website, it looks like the already offer a lot of similar features to ISA, so it should be interesting to see how MS merge the SSL VPN and additional application filters... We have recently been quoting for a large enterprise solution and the lack of ISA SSL VPN was a big downer for the customer :-( Jason Jones | Silversands Limited | T: 01202 360489 | M: 07971 500312 | F: 01202 360900 | E: jason.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jason.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________ From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder Sent: 19 May 2006 03:27 To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] MS Buys Whale You know, I thought this would have been a big deal. But no one seems to be talking about it. Tom Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP -- ISA Firewalls