Haven't had a chance to look at it much, so can't tell you for sure if it'd work for us. ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D PIETRUSZKA USWRN INTERLINK INFRA ASST MGR Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:49 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: SurfControl... Did you think about Websense? Regards Diego R. Pietruszka From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:36 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: SurfControl... If we were "just" filtering adult material, I think it would be acceptable. However, we have many different layers of filtering, such as employees can access web-based mail but students cannot, etc... The ability to use "categories" of websites to limit who can get to what is almost indispensable here! ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:25 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: 'David Farinic' Subject: [isalist] Re: SurfControl... Ah, some one reporting my pet-peeve about GFI. Yes, the fact that it only does content control via a round about way for only one category is a big draw back. I currently only use GFI WebMonitor for virus scanning of content and file type policy enforcement. If they would include full proper content filtering by category, (and by a source other than Yahoo,) I would not have to deal with 2 vendors. John T eServices For You "Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood." Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:16 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: SurfControl... I will give SurfControl credit in that they spent an hour on the phone doing remote assistance with me to resolve it, although it did take about an hour just to get the phone call through... Trying their newest version now; so I will see if this one performs better than the last one. Too bad GFI doesn't support multiple categories! ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:06 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: SurfControl... See, that's the diff; if the ISV responds properly to customer complaints, PSS never hears of it. The sad part is that those ISVs that don't respond appropriately get shuffled off to PSS for resolution. I've not had to work with GFI at all in a negative context, which only means that if PSS got such a call, they were able to resolve it either with or without GFI involvement. The fact that Web Sense, Surf Control and Trend pop immediately to my mind in the context of PSS calls says nothing conclusive. From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Farinic Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:55 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: SurfControl... Well we are not that innocent either, otherwise I wouldn't code ISA crashmonitor which logs last function calls in ISA ISAPI calls ;) Especially with new flood of multicores ISA servers we got reported more issues however we responded and now it seems all OK. Regards DavidF ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:59 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: SurfControl... To be more general, it's amazing how a broken plug-in can bring down an ISA server. What's interesting is that I've seen many PSS cases for Web Sense, Surf Control and Trend, but nary a one for GFI. Wonder what David thinks of that? :-) From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 6:18 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] SurfControl... Just an observation: It is truly amazing at how quickly and completely a corrupt rule in SurfControl can bring down an ISA server! All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. 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