Am I missing something here, I must be, I have 2 ISA servers that I have setup for a test environment, currently I am working with VPN tunnels, both PPTP and L2TP, my problem is this, after establishing a tunnel, either PPTP or L2TP after short period of time the tunnel disconnects and no mater what I do I can not reestablish the link. Both of these ISA servers were built as standalone integrated web cache, firewall and proxy. I did install the Certificate service on one of the ISA servers, keeping in mind this is only to evaluate the ISA platform. My remote ISA server that ran Remote VPN wizard and read the config file also requested and installed a Cert from the Cert server? There must be a way to build either a PPTP or L2TP tunnel and have it enabled and always connected. What am I missing here? Thank you Glenn