[isalist] Re: "Custom" JAVA apps
- From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:12:17 -0700
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We actually thought of that as well. Many of my users have laptops with
EVDO cards so they can directly connect to the internet if they need to.
(Not while on the LAN, and firewall is on and they are non-admin of course,
and have current AV, etc) so in instances of low usage need, they have that.
If this app does that, I will refuse to support it and make them go to a new
vendor. Simple as that. I won't cater my policy to suit stupid vendors.
t
On 8/24/06 8:00 PM, "Glenn P. JOHNSTON" <glenn.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh
to all:
> A client had a similar problem with some taxi card management software.
>
> As fast as we got it working, they'd release a new version and part or all of
> the web application would stop working.
>
> They ended up using a standalone PC, with direct internet connection, as there
> were only 2 users, and about an hours usage / week this was workable. If it
> was a main stream application, this definately would not cut it.
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> Sent: Fri 25/Aug/2006 04:15
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> Subject: [isalist] Re: "Custom" JAVA apps
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> Thanks for the infoz.... I was afraid I'd have to do that...
>
> t
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> On 8/24/06 10:35 AM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to
> all:
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>> What I meant to say was that even thought the Web browser is a Web proxy
>> client, these java apps don't necessarily take their cues from the
>> browser config, so they act in the role of SecureNET or FWC. In that
>> case, you do need to create a Protocol Definition and Access Rule
>> allowing that custom protocol. :\
>>
>> And if the POS depends on multiple primary or secondary connections, get
>> ready for making it an avocation figuring out what they are, because the
>> devs won't tell you because their GUI dev environment did that
>> "thinking" for them =%-\
>>
>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: "Custom" JAVA apps
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>>> On 8/24/06 10:14 AM, "Thomas W Shinder"
>>> <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to
>>> all:
>>>
>>>> Are the java apps running as Web proxy clients?
>>>
>>> I assume you mean "are the clients that are running the java
>>> apps Web proxy
>>> client?" right? Yes, they are.
>>>
>>>
>>>> If so, it shouldn't'
>>>> matter. However, most of them don't have have a multituide of other
>>>> problems that cause them to not work with CERN proxies. In
>>> that case,
>>>> Direct Access is the solution, which will require the FWC
>>> if you want
>>>> authenticated outbound access (this was to the "egress" PTB) ;)
>>>
>>> That's what I was thinking, but it no workie. Tried Direct
>>> Access with the
>>> FWC, but it says "Failed to connect to the
>>> Server:www.JackLegDevelopers.net:9402" with a bunch of java.net.socket
>>> errors.
>>>
>>> Normally if this happens and the clients can't connect, I
>>> tell them to go
>>> piss up a rope and find a vendor that can code. But in this
>>> case it's a
>>> "fuel card management" deal that I need to use. Anything
>>> else? Please
>>> don't say I have to create access rules with "custom
>>> protocols" for that
>>> port... I'm not used to having to work with this java crap.
>>>
>>> t
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