RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:03:25 -0500

We're going to have to ban you.

BTW -- are you going to the MVP conf? Debi is a sec MVP, so keep your
paws off.

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:01 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade 
> Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> All depends on if you want liquor or licker first!!
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Greg Mulholland" <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:56 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade 
> Scenarios with Seperate 
> ISA AD Forest
> 
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> 
> Does it have to be in that order...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2005 1:52 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
> Seperate ISA AD Forest
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Well, I was giving you an "in."  Normally that's all one 
> needs to spill
> their guts.  Have you tried vodka and hookers?
> 
> t
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:31 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
> Seperate ISA AD Forest
> 
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> :-|
> 
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org
> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:29 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
> > Seperate ISA AD Forest
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Gee Tom, have you been in a rotten mood lately?
> >
> > t
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:25 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
> > Seperate ISA AD Forest
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Anyone notice that I've been in a rotten mood lately?
> >
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > Site: www.isaserver.org
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> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:24 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
> > > Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > And enjoy the performance enhancements of RADIUS auth ;-)
> > >
> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:16 PM
> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
> > > > Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > > As Tom said - that document is outdated to the point if vast
> > > > incorrectness-like-stuff...
> > > > With ISA 2004, you only need ISA to be a member of a trusting
> > > > domain if
> > > > you expect to support firewall client traffic.
> > > > Otherwise, you can RADIUS-auth to your heart's content.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > >    Jim Harrison
> > > >    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > >    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > >    http://isatools.org
> > > >    Read the help / books / articles!
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Danny [mailto:nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 17:55
> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
> > Scenarios with
> > > > Seperate ISA AD Forest
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > > On 9/27/05, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > First bad assumption - don't build your forest structure
> > > > around ISA -
> > > > > build ISA into the forest structure.  Design your AD before
> > > > you worry
> > > > > about your edge.
> > > >
> > > > I should have mentioned that I came across this document
> > > > before posting:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/isa/2004/plan/sec
> > > > urityharde
> > > > ningguide.mspx
> > > >
> > > > "Determining Domain Membership
> > > >
> > > > In many cases, you may want to set up the ISA Server 
> computer as a
> > > > member of a domain. For example, if you will create a 
> policy that
> > > > relies on domain user authentication, ISA Server should
> > belong to a
> > > > domain.
> > > >
> > > > If the ISA Server computer is protecting the edge of your
> > > network, we
> > > > recommend that you install it in a separate forest (rather
> > > than in the
> > > > internal forest of your corporate network). ..."
> > > >
> > > > Can you please elaborate, Jim?
> > > >
> > > > > You can adapt the ISA deployment to that later.
> > > >
> > > > Good point.  On the same token, I want to focus on doing it
> > > right the
> > > > first time.
> > > >
> > > > Much appreciated,
> > > >
> > > > ...D
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