RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:54:29 -0700

She'll be so pleased...
:-)

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-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 08:50
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
Seperate ISA AD Forest

http://www.ISAserver.org

Joseph.  Remember?  We're sharing your daughter!

t

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:26 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
Seperate 
ISA AD Forest


> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> What's his name?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:16 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
> Seperate ISA AD Forest
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Paws? Hmf!
>
> Don't worry- she's safe... I'm spoken for these days ;)
>
> t
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:03 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
> Seperate
> ISA AD Forest
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> We're going to have to ban you.
>
> BTW -- are you going to the MVP conf? Debi is a sec MVP, so keep your
> paws off.
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:01 PM
>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
>> Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>> All depends on if you want liquor or licker first!!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Greg Mulholland" <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:56 PM
>> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
>> Scenarios with Seperate
>> ISA AD Forest
>>
>>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>>
>> Does it have to be in that order...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2005 1:52 PM
>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
>> Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>> Well, I was giving you an "in."  Normally that's all one
>> needs to spill
>> their guts.  Have you tried vodka and hookers?
>>
>> t
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:31 PM
>> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
>> Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>
>>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>> :-|
>>
>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:29 PM
>> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>> > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
>> > Seperate ISA AD Forest
>> >
>> > http://www.ISAserver.org
>> >
>> > Gee Tom, have you been in a rotten mood lately?
>> >
>> > t
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:25 PM
>> > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
>> > Seperate ISA AD Forest
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.ISAserver.org
>> >
>> > Anyone notice that I've been in a rotten mood lately?
>> >
>> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>> > Site: www.isaserver.org
>> > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
>> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:24 PM
>> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
>> > > Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest
>> > >
>> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
>> > >
>> > > And enjoy the performance enhancements of RADIUS auth ;-)
>> > >
>> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>> > > Site: www.isaserver.org
>> > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
>> > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:16 PM
>> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
>> > > > Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
>> > > >
>> > > > As Tom said - that document is outdated to the point if vast
>> > > > incorrectness-like-stuff...
>> > > > With ISA 2004, you only need ISA to be a member of a trusting
>> > > > domain if
>> > > > you expect to support firewall client traffic.
>> > > > Otherwise, you can RADIUS-auth to your heart's content.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
>> > > >    Jim Harrison
>> > > >    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>> > > >    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
>> > > >    http://isatools.org
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>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: Danny [mailto:nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx]
>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 17:55
>> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
>> > Scenarios with
>> > > > Seperate ISA AD Forest
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
>> > > >
>> > > > On 9/27/05, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > > > First bad assumption - don't build your forest structure
>> > > > around ISA -
>> > > > > build ISA into the forest structure.  Design your AD before
>> > > > you worry
>> > > > > about your edge.
>> > > >
>> > > > I should have mentioned that I came across this document
>> > > > before posting:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/isa/2004/plan/sec
>> > > > urityharde
>> > > > ningguide.mspx
>> > > >
>> > > > "Determining Domain Membership
>> > > >
>> > > > In many cases, you may want to set up the ISA Server
>> computer as a
>> > > > member of a domain. For example, if you will create a
>> policy that
>> > > > relies on domain user authentication, ISA Server should
>> > belong to a
>> > > > domain.
>> > > >
>> > > > If the ISA Server computer is protecting the edge of your
>> > > network, we
>> > > > recommend that you install it in a separate forest (rather
>> > > than in the
>> > > > internal forest of your corporate network). ..."
>> > > >
>> > > > Can you please elaborate, Jim?
>> > > >
>> > > > > You can adapt the ISA deployment to that later.
>> > > >
>> > > > Good point.  On the same token, I want to focus on doing it
>> > > right the
>> > > > first time.
>> > > >
>> > > > Much appreciated,
>> > > >
>> > > > ...D
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