She'll be so pleased... :-) ------------------------------------------------------- Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! ------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 08:50 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest http://www.ISAserver.org Joseph. Remember? We're sharing your daughter! t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:26 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest > http://www.ISAserver.org > > What's his name? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:16 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with > Seperate ISA AD Forest > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Paws? Hmf! > > Don't worry- she's safe... I'm spoken for these days ;) > > t > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:03 PM > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with > Seperate > ISA AD Forest > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > We're going to have to ban you. > > BTW -- are you going to the MVP conf? Debi is a sec MVP, so keep your > paws off. > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > Site: www.isaserver.org > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > MVP -- ISA Firewalls > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:01 PM >> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade >> Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest >> >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> All depends on if you want liquor or licker first!! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Greg Mulholland" <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:56 PM >> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade >> Scenarios with Seperate >> ISA AD Forest >> >> >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> >> Does it have to be in that order... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2005 1:52 PM >> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with >> Seperate ISA AD Forest >> >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> Well, I was giving you an "in." Normally that's all one >> needs to spill >> their guts. Have you tried vodka and hookers? >> >> t >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:31 PM >> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with >> Seperate ISA AD Forest >> >> >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> :-| >> >> Thomas W Shinder, M.D. >> Site: www.isaserver.org >> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ >> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 >> MVP -- ISA Firewalls >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:29 PM >> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with >> > Seperate ISA AD Forest >> > >> > http://www.ISAserver.org >> > >> > Gee Tom, have you been in a rotten mood lately? >> > >> > t >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:25 PM >> > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with >> > Seperate ISA AD Forest >> > >> > >> > http://www.ISAserver.org >> > >> > Anyone notice that I've been in a rotten mood lately? >> > >> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. >> > Site: www.isaserver.org >> > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ >> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 >> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls >> > >> > >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] >> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:24 PM >> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade >> > > Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest >> > > >> > > http://www.ISAserver.org >> > > >> > > And enjoy the performance enhancements of RADIUS auth ;-) >> > > >> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. >> > > Site: www.isaserver.org >> > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ >> > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 >> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:16 PM >> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade >> > > > Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest >> > > > >> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org >> > > > >> > > > As Tom said - that document is outdated to the point if vast >> > > > incorrectness-like-stuff... >> > > > With ISA 2004, you only need ISA to be a member of a trusting >> > > > domain if >> > > > you expect to support firewall client traffic. >> > > > Otherwise, you can RADIUS-auth to your heart's content. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > Jim Harrison >> > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG >> > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ >> > > > http://isatools.org >> > > > Read the help / books / articles! >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Danny [mailto:nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx] >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 17:55 >> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade >> > Scenarios with >> > > > Seperate ISA AD Forest >> > > > >> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org >> > > > >> > > > On 9/27/05, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > > > First bad assumption - don't build your forest structure >> > > > around ISA - >> > > > > build ISA into the forest structure. Design your AD before >> > > > you worry >> > > > > about your edge. >> > > > >> > > > I should have mentioned that I came across this document >> > > > before posting: >> > > > >> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/isa/2004/plan/sec >> > > > urityharde >> > > > ningguide.mspx >> > > > >> > > > "Determining Domain Membership >> > > > >> > > > In many cases, you may want to set up the ISA Server >> computer as a >> > > > member of a domain. For example, if you will create a >> policy that >> > > > relies on domain user authentication, ISA Server should >> > belong to a >> > > > domain. >> > > > >> > > > If the ISA Server computer is protecting the edge of your >> > > network, we >> > > > recommend that you install it in a separate forest (rather >> > > than in the >> > > > internal forest of your corporate network). ..." >> > > > >> > > > Can you please elaborate, Jim? >> > > > >> > > > > You can adapt the ISA deployment to that later. >> > > > >> > > > Good point. 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