RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest
- From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:41:41 -0700
She's 18 and living at home; you do the math...
;-p
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 09:05
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
Seperate ISA AD Forest
http://www.ISAserver.org
Hardly fair... Not even a death threat??? You're no fun anymore.
t
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:54 AM
Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
Seperate
ISA AD Forest
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> She'll be so pleased...
> :-)
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 08:50
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
> Seperate ISA AD Forest
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Joseph. Remember? We're sharing your daughter!
>
> t
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:26 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
> Seperate
> ISA AD Forest
>
>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>> What's his name?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:16 PM
>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
>> Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>> Paws? Hmf!
>>
>> Don't worry- she's safe... I'm spoken for these days ;)
>>
>> t
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:03 PM
>> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
>> Seperate
>> ISA AD Forest
>>
>>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>> We're going to have to ban you.
>>
>> BTW -- are you going to the MVP conf? Debi is a sec MVP, so keep your
>> paws off.
>>
>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>> Site: www.isaserver.org
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>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:01 PM
>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
>>> Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>>
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>
>>> All depends on if you want liquor or licker first!!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Greg Mulholland" <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:56 PM
>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
>>> Scenarios with Seperate
>>> ISA AD Forest
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Does it have to be in that order...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2005 1:52 PM
>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
>>> Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>>
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>
>>> Well, I was giving you an "in." Normally that's all one
>>> needs to spill
>>> their guts. Have you tried vodka and hookers?
>>>
>>> t
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:31 PM
>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios with
>>> Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>
>>> :-|
>>>
>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>>> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:29 PM
>>> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>> > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios
with
>>> > Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>> >
>>> > http://www.ISAserver.org
>>> >
>>> > Gee Tom, have you been in a rotten mood lately?
>>> >
>>> > t
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:25 PM
>>> > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade Scenarios
with
>>> > Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > http://www.ISAserver.org
>>> >
>>> > Anyone notice that I've been in a rotten mood lately?
>>> >
>>> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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>>> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>>> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:24 PM
>>> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
>>> > > Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>> > >
>>> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
>>> > >
>>> > > And enjoy the performance enhancements of RADIUS auth ;-)
>>> > >
>>> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>>> > > Site: www.isaserver.org
>>> > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
>>> > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>>> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:16 PM
>>> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
>>> > > > Scenarios with Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>> > > >
>>> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
>>> > > >
>>> > > > As Tom said - that document is outdated to the point if vast
>>> > > > incorrectness-like-stuff...
>>> > > > With ISA 2004, you only need ISA to be a member of a trusting
>>> > > > domain if
>>> > > > you expect to support firewall client traffic.
>>> > > > Otherwise, you can RADIUS-auth to your heart's content.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > > Jim Harrison
>>> > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>>> > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
>>> > > > http://isatools.org
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>>> > > >
>>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > From: Danny [mailto:nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx]
>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 17:55
>>> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: 2000 to 2004 Possible Upgrade
>>> > Scenarios with
>>> > > > Seperate ISA AD Forest
>>> > > >
>>> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On 9/27/05, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > > > > First bad assumption - don't build your forest structure
>>> > > > around ISA -
>>> > > > > build ISA into the forest structure. Design your AD before
>>> > > > you worry
>>> > > > > about your edge.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I should have mentioned that I came across this document
>>> > > > before posting:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/isa/2004/plan/sec
>>> > > > urityharde
>>> > > > ningguide.mspx
>>> > > >
>>> > > > "Determining Domain Membership
>>> > > >
>>> > > > In many cases, you may want to set up the ISA Server
>>> computer as a
>>> > > > member of a domain. For example, if you will create a
>>> policy that
>>> > > > relies on domain user authentication, ISA Server should
>>> > belong to a
>>> > > > domain.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > If the ISA Server computer is protecting the edge of your
>>> > > network, we
>>> > > > recommend that you install it in a separate forest (rather
>>> > > than in the
>>> > > > internal forest of your corporate network). ..."
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Can you please elaborate, Jim?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > You can adapt the ISA deployment to that later.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Good point. On the same token, I want to focus on doing it
>>> > > right the
>>> > > > first time.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Much appreciated,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > ...D
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