[PCB_FORUM] Re: excellent point Andrew!
- From: "Degennaro, Natalie N" <natalie.n.degennaro@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 11:07:24 -0700
Andy is right. A lot of people from Cadence 'watch' this board and
rarely comment, so you might not know they are "listening". They are
looking for feedback from their users! Most of the comments I hear back
from Cadence AE's and other Cadence personnel, is that they don't get
much feedback from the Users of the PCB Design tools, but they get
massive feedback from the Users of the IC design tools. So guess which
wheel gets greased - the squeaky one!
All of you out there who have maintenance contracts (you know who you
are), start turning in PCR's (Product Change Requests) with Cadence and
ask for what you want. Don't just turn one in and do nothing but
complain however, give constructive feedback WITH examples and keep it
up! THIS is the way to get the changes that we want in our tools that we
use!!!
How can we expect a bunch of programmers to know what we would like the
program to do, if we don't tell them what we want! Yes, I know some of
you have already been doing that, but keep it up! Don't just turn in one
PCR and not check up on it on a regular basis. Or better yet - turn in
more!
For those of you who saw the movie "Shawshank Redemption" - remember
when Tim Robbins wrote a letter everyday to get money for books in the
Prison library, and then finally got what he wanted because the people
were getting tired of receiving his letters?
Hopefully, we Designers don't have to write the same thing for months or
years, but we should make our requests known and keep making them known
until they are resolved!
Let us PCB Designers be the squeaky-ist wheel of Cadence Users (in a
constructive manner that is).
Natalie
(this is just my own personnal opinion of course and not that of my
company)
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From: Andy_Kulik@xxxxxxx [mailto:Andy_Kulik@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:52 AM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: excellent point Andrew!
Why would you want to wait until it is implemented in 15.whatever.
The only things you would get are:
1) an increased level of frustration, which results in the usual
complaints, and
2) you have to work with a piece of software that doesn't really help
you.
Don't get me wrong Kevin. I am not taking sides here, but I know out of
personal experience, that you can make a difference
and help prevent "crap" from being implemented. You may not be able to
do it directly, but by posting suggestions or opinions
on this forum, you do it indirectly. I mean this is what this forum is
all about. Ask questions and tell everybody how you think the tools
should work.
Don't wait until it is to late and the only thing left is complaining.
Instead help to make it right.
Andy
Kevin McCowan
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[PCB_FORUM] Re: excellent point Andrew!
Well, if we had part to part rulesets you could certainly do this.
You would just apply a rule based on how tall a component is.
2 short comps=close, 2 tall or a short and tall= far.
Let's see how they implement it in 15.5 and then we will be
able to see all of the ways they did it wrong.
Or not.
Kevin McCowan
Gene Carman wrote:
> again, simple rules for day to day needs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MAILER-DAEMON@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:18 AM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: how do YOU handle component spacing rules?
>
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> Personally, I like the idea of DFA checks but my angle is in the third
> dimension. I'd like to be able to set up not only the types you've
> outlined, but rules for minimum spacing based on package height. Our
CM
> needs more space between a 200mil high connector and an 0603 cap than
> two 0603 caps side by side.
>
> Any thoughts on creating rule sets based on height?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
>
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